Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger Retires

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  • V1tol
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 608

    #11
    He will remain in hearts of every AMD user forever

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    • ms178
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2018
      • 1710

      #12
      Originally posted by avis View Post
      Let's make no mistake, he was ousted.

      Pat had almost five years to turn Intel around. He failed to achieve that and not only that ARL turned out to be a colossal failure.

      The problem is, I'm not sure anybody knows how to salvage the company. Something in it just isn't working.

      I agree, Arrow Lake was only the latest iteration of "Intel knows best what the market should want" attitude that turned out to be horrible for an important market: Gaming. They had Adamantine cache for that, but decided to not bring that to the gaming market. What a bummer. Intel really should alter their desktop platform strategy to be more competitive with AMD. Their product segmentation is just not competitive any longer. I still remember the X58 days where I could put a used overclockable server Xeon in that socket, that was way more exciting than what we got over the past 10 years from them. They need to get over the bean counter mentality and offer exciting products again.

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      • Mitch
        Senior Member
        • May 2017
        • 372

        #13
        I think Pat did get the company through some of his predecessor's issues and he took some chances, some of which really paid off. The damage his predecessor did, through a ton of stagnation across the board, is still hurting the company.

        Pat and the company getting big-little architecture and later expanding on it was a great move, even if it complicated instruction sets. The GPUs aren't yet competitive, but it has been close, at least in some price classes. It's obvious they're putting a ton of effort there.

        I think Lunar Lake is also a great chip, I just wish they had some options in that architecture with more cores. Meteor lake's LPE cores are amazing. Future generations could perhaps be expanded on and clustered so that core clusters can be turned on and off in pairs to save power, possibly replacing the LP cores entirely. Regardless, Meteor Lake was a positive movement for Intel and helped them in their biggest weak spot: low CPU scenarios.

        Qualcomm, Apple, AMD, Nvidia, and TSMC are very tough to contend with. I'm hoping everyone, including Intel, can stay in the race and compete to keep tech innovative and affordable.
        Last edited by Mitch; 02 December 2024, 03:39 PM.

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        • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1582

          #14
          And nobody should be cheering on Intel's demise. The current duopoly wasn't good for consumers. Having a new one with AMD and Qualcomm wouldn't be any better, and that's assuming Qualcomm can be successful in the laptop / desktop segments long term. We need 3 players.

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          • fotomar
            Phoronix Member
            • Jun 2024
            • 95

            #15
            Originally posted by botipua22 View Post
            i'm sure nvidia would love to absorb intel, but their attempt will certainly be blocked like it was during their pursuit of arm. intel is an american darling.
            They’re as much an Israeli company now

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            • Weasel
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 4503

              #16
              Originally posted by avis View Post
              People can laugh at me all they want, but when a fruit cult company has a much faster and more efficient uArch (M4 Pro destroys them while consuming much less power) than both Intel and AMD, it should be quite alarming, but for some reason no one cares.​
              No one cares because it's bullshit. That's the reason.

              But you will continue spewing that forever no matter what so keep burying your head in the s̵a̵n̵d̵ Apple's ass.
              Last edited by Weasel; 02 December 2024, 11:40 AM.

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              • bachchain
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2016
                • 402

                #17
                Did he even have an actual plan besides kill products and divisions?

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                • geerge
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2023
                  • 359

                  #18
                  Originally posted by avis View Post
                  Let's make no mistake, he was ousted.

                  Pat had almost five years to turn Intel around. He failed to achieve that and not only that ARL turned out to be a colossal failure.

                  The problem is, I'm not sure anybody knows how to salvage the company. Something in it just isn't working.

                  People can laugh at me all they want, but when a fruit cult company has a much faster and more efficient uArch (M4 Pro destroys them while consuming much less power) than both Intel and AMD, it should be quite alarming, but for some reason no one cares.


                  From what I can tell he made the right moves, it's just the hole that had already been dug was too deep for a quick turnaround.

                  Apple has two things going for it. 1) They buy out the best node years in advance. 2) They go for efficiency above all else; large die area, many accelerators, clocked at the sweet spot in the efficiency curve. Both of these things are possible because of how they've positioned themselves in the market. Everyone else is competing with the additional constraint of cost, in what boils down to a very different market with some overlap. On the same node with the same design goals everyone competent would be roughly at parity regardless of arch, there's nothing alarming about the situation.

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                  • JPFSanders
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2016
                    • 422

                    #19
                    Originally posted by botipua22 View Post
                    i'm sure nvidia would love to absorb intel, but their attempt will certainly be blocked like it was during their pursuit of arm. intel is an american darling.
                    They all are American corporations.

                    * Nvidia Corporation (/ɛnˈvɪdiə/, en-VID-ee-ə) is an American multinational corporation and technology company headquartered in Santa Clara, California, and incorporated in Delaware.​

                    (* AMD is also American and based in Santa Clara, California.​)

                    You're confused because the shine of Comrade Jensen's leather jacket is very intense.

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                    • CommunityMember
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 1377

                      #20
                      Originally posted by avis View Post
                      Let's make no mistake, he was ousted.
                      Of course he was.

                      There have been rumors for quite some time that the board and Gelsinger had some serious disagreements in strategy, and three months ago a senior board member resigned over such disagreements.

                      At some point the board is forced to assert their authority. That point is now.

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