Bcachefs Changes Rejected Reportedly Due To CoC, Kernel Future "Uncertain"

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  • royce
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 656

    #71
    It's absolutely pathetic how everyone is being a little fragile bitch about Kent. Yes, he's a dickhead, abrasive and a 10x developer. So is Linus - his only saving grace over the years is being the founder, otherwise he'd been CoC'd long ago.

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    • Alexmitter
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 1128

      #72
      Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
      also of note, lets be clear what the issue here is.

      The issue here is not kent being toxic, it's that COC is demanding a public appology, despite it already being worked out, start reading from here https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/vvulqfv...@7qj4gyaw2zfo/
      "The guy who is physically incapable of saying sorry is absolutely not toxic, i promose"

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      • cynic
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1089

        #73
        Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
        also of note, lets be clear what the issue here is.

        The issue here is not kent being toxic, it's that COC is demanding a public appology, despite it already being worked out, start reading from here https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/vvulqfv...@7qj4gyaw2zfo/
        what?
        do they also want a bouquet of flowers and a romantic dinner?

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        • cynic
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1089

          #74
          Originally posted by toastal View Post
          Is it possible to kick Kent & let someone with social skills do the communicating on the mailing list on his behalf? Maybe this is a good use for AI+LLMs? …to fix his tone. It does not seem he has the discipline to do this himself after reading quite a few of the threads that have popped up & it is very disappointing since the filesystem does have a lot of promise (tho the quality of the pull requests have been pretty iffy too according to Linus on several threads).
          look, there's this old lady club where my grandma goes: It's full of very kind women.
          let's them develop the kernel ok? I guess that we will not see any arguing anymore.

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          • Alexmitter
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2019
            • 1128

            #75
            Originally posted by TheMightyBuzzard View Post
            Kent legitimately has kills and is indeed an expert. He is a beautiful and unique snowflake, relatively speaking.
            Will he one day show this skills and expertise or will he keep that for himself and only write shotty code and terrible mails onto the mailinglist?

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            • mdedetrich
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2019
              • 2537

              #76
              Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post

              I will celebrate the day bcachefs is removed from mainline and the only one kent can blame for that is himself and his Hindenburg sized hot air filled ego.
              People like you are the reason why Linux users go to great lengths to do something like make OpenZFS work on Linux, because the Linux community is so fuken dysfunctional right now that one of the few people that are able to contribute a properly implemented CoW filesystem are being driven off.

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              • cynic
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1089

                #77
                Originally posted by microchip8 View Post
                A dick himself calling others dicks. Yeah... the one who needs to change is Kent, not the whole kernel culture. Nothing is perfect and there will always be issues, but in this case, it's the bcachefs author that makes the problem, not the other way around. His past (and continuing) behavior only shows it... The guy is so consumed by ego that's he's become blind to his own behavior and can't self-reflect.
                all the kernel developers have an attititude.
                the LKML has always been full of flames and words, and it has worked very well so far.

                CoC is the issue here.

                This is what is destroying the linux kernel and many other FOSS projects.



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                • User29
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2023
                  • 248

                  #78
                  Originally posted by cynic View Post

                  look, there's this old lady club where my grandma goes: It's full of very kind women.
                  let's them develop the kernel ok? I guess that we will not see any arguing anymore.
                  arguments and being plain assholes are two different things in the real world.

                  also, why should people associate the linux kernel with a lot of mentally ill chimps?

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                  • mdedetrich
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2019
                    • 2537

                    #79
                    Originally posted by pomac View Post

                    Which seems to say "trust me" while backhanding changes and actively working on bypassing people that should trust him?
                    No hes saying that the maintainers are acting like a paternalistic dictator which is creating an unhealthy environment to contribute in, the same way that a parent acting like a paternalistic dictator is not the best environment for children.

                    Originally posted by pomac View Post
                    Trust is earned and should not be taken for granted.
                    Kent Overstreet is one of the oldest and smartest programmers, hes already earned that trust ages ago. This is not an issue of trust, but of Michael feeling like his ego was bruised and not being able to handle it.

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                    • Mathias
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 238

                      #80
                      Can someone register bcachefs-drama.org and put up a counter "x days since the last bcachefs drama, y this year, longest streak without z"

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