Bcachefs Changes Rejected Reportedly Due To CoC, Kernel Future "Uncertain"

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  • intelfx
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 1155

    #91
    Originally posted by waxhead View Post
    Kent yells about kmalloc() with the nofail flag not failing (which the noflag is for). The manual for kmallloc() even says "think twice before using". Need I say more?
    Expand.

    It's not clear what you are trying to say here.

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    • npwx
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 143

      #92
      Originally posted by spockfish View Post

      It comes down to the same behavior from day one: he could just follow the rules and apologize to the community. Instead, again, he goes on a rant why his pov is better.
      Which could very well be, but he should think about his project. Because if Bcachefs ends with this, it is himself who is to blame. Not Linus, not a CoC.
      Partially agreed. For the sake of moving on, he should appologize and do just that, even though I don't see why an appology, especially "to the community", would be necessary. Still, the CoC-thing appears very problematic. As Chritoph Helwig puts it in that thread:

      "FYI, without taking any stance on the issue under debate here, I find the language used by Shuah on behalf of the Code of Conduct committee extremely patronising and passive aggressive."
      ​
      So the people trying to enforce some good behaviour don't exhibit very good behaviour themselves. Its exactly that power play crap that CoC-boards everywhere seem to demonstrate, and this is why they should be abolished until they figure out how not to attract that kind of people.

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      • mdedetrich
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2019
        • 2550

        #93
        Originally posted by npwx View Post
        "FYI, without taking any stance on the issue under debate here, I find the language used by Shuah on behalf of the Code of Conduct committee extremely patronising and passive aggressive."
        Where is this post?

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        • energyman
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 1755

          #94
          Originally posted by TheMightyBuzzard View Post

          Look, I ain't a fan of Kent's but most anyone truly an expert at their job has an ego like that, even if they have better manners. It's not arrogance, it's a recognition of provable fact. Part of being a professional among experts is knowing this is how reality is going to be no matter what you want and learning to get the job done anyway. Trying to change human nature is the thing that would be childish and absurd.
          no, most experts are actually nice to work with. It is the wannabe experts with a personality disorder that act like Kent.

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          • npwx
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 143

            #95
            Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post

            Where is this post?

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            • nadir
              Phoronix Member
              • Sep 2021
              • 57

              #96
              Originally posted by M@yeulC View Post
              Hmm, as a Kent Patreon supporter, I hope he succeeds with bcachefs, but he also ought to take the hints sometimes. There isn't much place for ego in a collaborative project.

              I also thinks he has it backwards with his little story. Code of conducts are useful tools to reign in the "dicks" and get them to change their behavior, or get them excluded. CoC are not the actual violent authority figures., they are here to safeguard everyone against them.
              Which is why the usual suspects like avis and mightychicken hate CoCs so much. They're exactly the kind of person that should be thrown out of a community.

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              • npwx
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 143

                #97
                Originally posted by energyman View Post

                no, most experts are actually nice to work with. It is the wannabe experts with a personality disorder that act like Kent.
                Couldn't agree more. The truely smart people I worked with all were balanced, niced to work with, interesting as people and interested in more than just computers. It was the wannabes that were the prototypical nerds, speaking constantly in star trek memes, showing anti-social behaviour and doing mostly not very useful work.

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                • hf_139
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2023
                  • 346

                  #98
                  My prediction is that Torvalds will be silent for a few days and then make yet another idiotic statement, where he rants about Russia and vaccine deniers or something stupid like that.

                  Since kernel development isn't happening on merit anymore and personal opinions and politics and ethnicity decide who can contribute.. i will apply the same standard to Torvalds and forget about his merit and only judge him based on mindbogglingly dumb stupid statement.

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                  • hf_139
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2023
                    • 346

                    #99
                    Originally posted by M@yeulC View Post
                    Code of conducts are useful tools to reign in the "dicks"
                    The opposite.
                    Code of conducts are a useful tools to BE A DICK.
                    Established maintainers can do whatever they want.There is no need to tell anyone a reason why you harass them with your anonymous "CoC Enforcement Team" handle.

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                    • Brittle2
                      Phoronix Member
                      • Sep 2023
                      • 117

                      Originally posted by jonnyheggheim View Post
                      Bombing childrens aren't open and welcoming either, só they where right

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