Fedora Stakeholders Debate Concerns Over "Karma" Term For Their Updates System

[Mordrag]

It's much more simple than all that: Either you believe in Freedom of Speech and people's right to say what they want or you believe in controlling speech, those are the two sides here. The words involved don't really matter because it's really just all about power on the part of censors.

Nobody is controlling you to not name your git branches "master". Keep living in your fantasy world.

[M@yeulC]

I agree that the name is not very descriptive anyway. As a replacement, I would simply suggest "votes".

[Estranged1906]

Upvotes and downvotes should be called "halal" and "haram". Simple as.

[irusensei]

I think the topic about censorship or freedom of speech doesn't apply here. It's also not related to being a communist or whatever. This kind of neutering comes from corporate risk adverse culture. Karma might not offensive but the powers that control the project don't want to touch it.

And it's sad because there has been an effort to erase all flavor, jokes and easter eggs from old FOSS projects.

[quaz0r]

Just dont change it to downvote or upvote
lets try slave and master

Congratulations, sir. You win the comment section this day.

[rb777]

I agree with this particular change because this is not what karma is. The West has a deeply flawed understanding of Eastern metaphysics going back to the first orientalists, and the 19th century esotericists made it worse. Now it's new-age shit. The Western concept of karma has a chicken-egg problem to begin with.

[ahrs]

What sucks about bodhi is something they seemingly don't give two f-ks about: once you leave a comment on a package you will receive all future comments about it on your email and there's no option to disable this behavior.

Maybe Fedora engineers could fix basic features instead of chasing dubious labels.

Does your email client not have an option to mute the thread? I could only see this being annoying if they send out new emails instead of maintaining the same thread of emails (not sure how it's implemented).

[Espionage724]

I thought "karma" used in the context of Fedora packaging was odd, and wouldn't be against using a different term. Kudos seems to convey the same thing and sounds like a fair alternative.

However, before voting on such a decision I'd like to know the decision process behind choosing "karma" as the label to begin with (I'm not voting and don't necessarily care to look into it ). If it was some people in a basement just coding and had to find some quick term, that implies it wasn't chosen with serious reason and probably doesn't deserve too-deep of inspection to change reasonably today. If the term "karma" was chosen for legitimate reasons back then though, it probably shouldn't be changed today "just cause".

Quite frankly I care more about being able to use the distro consistently, but year of the Linux desktop priorities apparently has a karma term no normal user is going to see as more important https://discussion.fedoraproject.org...ogin/118415/36 (had this happening since late F38 or F39)

[szymon_g]

Whatever you say communist.

Ah I just love when Americans call everything they don't like "communism".

[logical]

Ah I just love when Americans call everything they don't like "communism".

Actually "woke" is the current preferred term, followed by socialist. Use of communist as a pejorative has really gone down in the last decade. However, there is a large section of Americans that don't do this. It's just a Republican/Conservative thing carried over from the cold war.