Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted

[mSparks]

Even when I have been providing reference.

yeah those fairy tales.



fortunately enough people do remember their veracity that today the US might actually not vote to escalate ukraine into a full blown global nuclear winter based on similar fairy tales.

Although I'm far less confident about that than I would like. Since I do understand that the fallout 4 type scenario would be a life improvement for many Americans. Linus certainly seems sold on the idea, it didn't take much exposure to America for them to bring him on board either. Such a waste.

[Panix]

Not exactly to indefinitely prolong war. Russia has been able to repeatedly threaten it would do things due to the USSR stockpiles it has and how poorly they were stored. How spread out the USSR stockpiles they would have taken many nukes to neutralize. Fast war there is no way you could take out the USSR stockpiles without nukes because they are spread all over Russia.

This is why the old Nato plan had slowly giving up Poland or the like to 5 to 10 years to drain the stockpiles. Yes a game to bate Russia into moving all their stockpiled weapons to one location.

1 to 1 ratio Ukraine should have lost by now there is more to it.

https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/kokoda-trail

You want a 50 to 1 ratio you do what was done above on the Kokoda trail where Australian lost 600 soliders and japan lost over 10000. Yes a slow defense retreat with the here or there offensive to keep the other side on their toes yes 98% defense. This is very close to the game play Ukraine is doing.

Slowly gaining ground is not a good thing. The speed of Russian movement in Ukraine is Kokoda Trail movement speed. Yes it very possible that Russia side loss ratio is that high that expending all of Russia population + all the North Korean population and all the African country population they trained arms for would still leave Ukraine with an army.

Yes speed of land gain and loss is one way to make a estimate of loss ratio.


Panix the idea that this is to kill as many Ukrainian as possible without too many Russian deaths send in North Koreans is flawed. Very badly flawed.the problem here is the friend/foe problem. North Koreans have been that isolated that they will not be able to tell friend from foe between Russian and Ukrainians. Yes to them a person speaking Russian and a Person speaking Ukrainian will seam the same not understandable garbage. Reality North Koreans armed are likely to kill more Russians than Ukrainians with friendly fire events. Yes the North Koreans are going todo both friendly fire on Russian and not fire on the Ukrainians so letting Ukrainians through their lines all because of getting their friend/foe identification wrong. Thanks to South Korea education of North Korea defectors and the fact number of defectors who are willing going to Ukraine the reality is Ukraine will have more translators than the Russian side does. North Korean is not a simple language. Remember the number of cases just with people from inside Russia where you have had solider on solider because someone got something culture wrong.

Panix the shelling Kyiv is not exactly a problem if it was Russia would not still be doing missile strikes on Kyiv. Its more than Russian forces are not really able to get closer to-do more.

There are critical reasons why Russia will fight until the end. Take all Russian attack helicopters there is not a single one without a Ukrainian made engine. Russia as not been able to make another attack helicopter since 6 months into the war when they run out of engines.

Scary part here Russian armored vehicles have the engine in the back to protect this hard to make part as much as possible even if this location make it insanely hard to get out of the vehicle. Yes Russian riding on top of their APC and not taking advantage of the armor more than not is because the item is impractical to use because of focus on protecting the engine. Yes this is why the Russian battle plans have leave the APC we will get it back in future to repair it this worked while the other side did not have drones to hit critical points to destroy the engine block. Yes USSR WWII playbook and we are not in WWII.

History says if you don't have armor to protect your forces by taking hits(this explains barque(based off russian call them)/turtle tanks) you forces loss rate goes up by a factor of 10 to 100. Motorcycle attack units and light vehicle are not new these were tried when cavalry was not option world war II. Weston combined arms battle plans come out of the understanding that your light armor and unarmored is not suitable to use as ammo sponge unless you want to loss a stupid amount of soliders.

Yes if Russian loss rates are high now the day they run out of armor the current loses are going to look like nothing and this is totally to be expected because of losing the ammo sponges.

Russia is basically running at 100 percent employment. As Ukraine air-defence increases Russian has to send more and more units to have effect equal need more and more production. A countries work force is finite. So at this point Russia has to choose between more army, more production of long range weapons or more production of vehicles to move troops around.

Ukraine is not in the same location they can import more.

No, you are wrong - my theory is not 'flawed.' Anyway, what I said was happening before the North Koreans entered the picture. As for the NK, they will not be anywhere near Russian soldiers. They were told where to fight and what to do and Russians will let go fight. The North Koreans are unfamiliar with the terrain but they can be told what directions to go and what the strategy will be. Russians are also getting killed - but, at least, this way - they switch the dynamic so it's North Koreans now - and can use that message to their citizens "hey, we have a foreign nation in place so many Russians will be safe now." The fact that both nations are not fully equipped or have their resources not optimal - just shows that neither are committed to taking control - thus, winning/ending the war outright, anytime soon.

This will result in more and more kills for both sides - but, especially, the Ukrainians - and Ukrainian males have been trying to avoid conscription - going into hiding/trying to leave.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz994d6vqe5o

https://prescottenews.com/2024/10/13/ukrainian-recruiters-descend-on-kyivs-nightlife-in-search-of-men-not-registered-for-conscription-associated-press/

https://kyivindependent.com/as-russian-losses-in-ukraine-pass-700-000-the-kremlin-runs-low-on-non-mobilization-options/

Why would Ukrainian males want to serve - when there seems to be no point - just defending, endlessly as Zelensky et al. don't receive sufficient help from the West - and just throw ppl in over and over - ditto for Russians/Russia - who are not committed to a quick 'end war' strategy - the only common denominator here is the continuous cycle of killing each other.

My theory is flawed, huh? Um, no - so, you either don't understand or maybe you don't like that a theory is just as accurate or more so than yours?

[Weasel]

It's obvious, part of the intent is to just continue the war indefinitely aka prolonging the war. Like oiaohm said: "Yes If Russia and Ukraine was fighting with a 1 to 1 ratio Russia would have taken the complete country by now."
Russia would deplete whatever 'USSR' equip. they have for a full-on invasion war - into all of Ukraine - way more deaths - and it would be extremely unpopular at home. To send shells into Kyiv and have ongoing fighting at the Donbass regions is easier for them - plus, the mission of the higher-ups to kill as many Ukrainians as possible - without too many Russian soldier deaths - and now they can sacrifice some North Koreans instead.

What the fuck are you even saying? Attackers usually need at least 3:1 ratio to be able to even make progress, this is standard war rules of thumb.

Less with better weapons but Russia has worse than Ukraine (cheap but garbage compared to NATO equipment). Get over it.

[Weasel]

Most of the Russian troops are rotated back home now aiui, they only served for a year. There is another large drive for reconstruction planned in the next few months.
by far the largest armies are the troops from Kherson, Zaporozihia, LPR and DPR, originally consisting mostly of volunteers from the LPR/DPR regions (armed and supplemented by their mil friends in Russia) then bolstered greatly by conscription after the regions voted to join Russia in September 2022.

Even then, combined they are still laying claim to an area the size of the England every 6 months or so, and you believe who when they tell you that is slow?

Show proof, not claims.

I can give you loads of the opposite, but you won't take them, cause they're not russian-propaganda state-owned sources

Get rekt.

[Panix]

What the fuck are you even saying? Attackers usually need at least 3:1 ratio to be able to even make progress, this is standard war rules of thumb.

Less with better weapons but Russia has worse than Ukraine (cheap but garbage compared to NATO equipment). Get over it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1296573/russia-ukraine-military-comparison/

I'm saying - they are just killing each other and getting nowhere (all on purpose) - except ongoing deaths and Ukraine is parting with land and borders - corporations are swooping in to rebuild - which Ukrainians will get little benefit of - as foreigners will make the profits. Got it?

[oiaohm]

yeah those fairy tales..

See fairy tails from mSparks who wants to blame everything on cults.

[mSparks]

Show proof, not claims.

I can give you loads of the opposite, but you won't take them, cause they're not russian-propaganda state-owned sources

Get rekt.

Prove what? What do you even disagree with there? Did you miss the embedded link?

https://tass.com/defense/1850173

MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. The fall conscription campaign is kicking off in Russia on Tuesday; it will run until December 31.
Under the decree that President Vladimir Putin signed on September 30, 133,000 conscripts will be called up for military service, which is 3,000 more than in the spring campaign.
The conscripts will serve 12 months, while those called up a year ago will return home.
The conscription campaign begins on October 1 in all regions of the country, with certain Far Northern areas starting call-up on November 1 due to the weather conditions. Conscription campaigns were expanded to include the Lugansk and Donetsk People’s Republics, as well as the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, in the fall of 2023.


Rear Admiral Vladimir Tsimlyansky, deputy head of the Russian General Staff’s main organizational and mobilization department, said at a briefing that conscripts would not be sent to the four new regions of the country to participate in the special military operation.

Which I believe refers to this

http://static.kremlin.ru/media/events/files/ru/o7CrjW6u8eZnAl43WoUiPuR4VHaG57mg.pdf

[oiaohm]

No, you are wrong - my theory is not 'flawed.' Anyway, what I said was happening before the North Koreans entered the picture. As for the NK, they will not be anywhere near Russian soldiers.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1971189/north-korean-soldiers-friendly-fire-russian-army-ukraine-war

We already know this is false that North Korea and Russian soldiers will be separated. There has been the first north korean friendly fire mistake. More will follow. Battle field friend/foe identification is very important.

There is a key difference over taking under trained Russians off the streets and saying go forwards vs taking trained forced like the North Koreans and saying go forwards.

As trained solider is going see forced behind them as a hostile force and attack them if they cannot identify them as friend and engage. Barrier troop formation the Russian use is not compatible with trained soldiers it is compatible with meat waves made up of .untrained soldiers.

Yes North Korea soldiers is the define of poorly trained where they have in fact had training in basics of holding position including making sure you don't get take from behind or you flanks. Russia configurations are designed for the untrained soldiers in most places.

Like it or not in a front line like Ukraine no matter what you do if you put some party on the front line they are going to mix. Friend/foe is absolutely important.

One problem with using trained soldiers who have had at least 3 months of proper book training(the North Koreans have had this) you cannot point them in X direction and say go because they are trained as the saying goes to have head on a swivel meaning watch the 360. Trained soldiers even poorly trained ones must enter the battle field with correct friend/foe or they become nothing more than on going liability.

How long does Ukraine take to integrate western non Ukrainian forces. Yes they are put in decanted units but before they are let near the front line is a month and half to make sure they can friend/foe correctly between Russian and Ukrainian.. The North Koreans are being sent to the front line without training to do friend/foe and there has not been enough time to friend/foe them. Yes it practical exercises . This was also something that WWI and WWII also show as being important.

[mSparks]

See fairy tails from mSparks who wants to blame everything on cults.

Do you even know what the cult of epstein refers to?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/08/epstein-sex-tapes-prince-andrew-bill-clinton-richard-branson-witness-claimed

You can tell who is not in the cult on epstein by them irrationally hating on d. trump and/or Russia

I really hope you didn't, given your next link was a post by a rag owned by the maxwells.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuse

[oiaohm]

What the fuck are you even saying? Attackers usually need at least 3:1 ratio to be able to even make progress, this is standard war rules of thumb.

Less with better weapons but Russia has worse than Ukraine (cheap but garbage compared to NATO equipment). Get over it.

https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/kokoda-trail

There are rules of thumb.

3:1 is if defending forces are attempting holding ground. Slow controlled retreat as kokoda trail was(and many other battles) this sky rockets to 50:1 and higher. There are two markers to slow control retreat not heavily digging in and slow progress. Not heavily digging in of the Ukrainians can be confirmed by sat. .

If you have the land to trade and you value your soldiers the best plan is a slow controlled retreat. Slow controlled retreat cost numbers say even using all Russian population they don't have enough to take the land Putin said he wanted.

Slowed controlled retreat normally has the attacker getting sunk cost fallacy meaning they only stop once they must stop because they have burnt up their complete force because the small land gains the attackers get make them believe victory is possible so they keep on commit until they have nothing left. Yes Kododa trail you see this as well.

One of Ukraine goals will be to break Russia so they never try this stunt again.