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  • mSparks
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    • Oct 2007
    • 2124

    Originally posted by t1r0nama View Post
    So this motherfucker mSparks russian puppet is now trying to convince us that russia did not attack Ukraine. Ukraine attacked russia inside Ukraine. LOL. FUCK LOGIC!

    FUCK this russian troll bots.

    Your terrorist motherland will soon perish! Gone are the times when west did not care what russia did. Fuck USA for saving russia 3 times! But now, now it's time to finish what russia started itself (suicide). There is no coming back, too much is at stake now for the west. russia will be disassembled and dismantled just like their soldiers are in Ukraine.
    The problem with ad hominems such as this, is when you make such obviously falsifiable statements (I'm a Brit, who joined phoronix more than a decade and a half before you, with a fairly large - few 10s of thouands - following in aviation, global economics and AI), all you do is make yourself look a total fool and prove you are completely incapable of rational thinking, doing far, far more to undermine your position than I ever could.

    So probably time to call you out, I'm the pilot in the right seat taking off from EGCB last weekend with a friends wife and his brothers son in this video

    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


    that is the sort of thing I do for my friends.
    So besides your very suspicious join date, and proving you have everything backwards, who the fuck are you and why should anyone give a shit what you think?

    Otherwise please jog on.

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    • creative
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 870

      Yeah that's old Linus alright, I don't think much about the hooplalala, GNU Linux standard fare.

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      • Weasel
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2017
        • 4526

        Originally posted by mSparks
        There is a meat grinder in Kursk that is calling your name.
        He's not russian buddy.

        It is simply amazing how brainwashed you are, willfully ignorant.

        Can't wait to hear numbers of Ukraine losing troops totalling to more than the population of the country, just like the tanks/jets being more than 3 times its availability in only a few months! Russian news channels are the best!

        If Ukraine is losing so many troops why did Russia get North Korean troops for aid? Clearly they should have enough considering their giant population right? Not like they lost millions already? Use what's remaining of your tiny brain.
        Last edited by Weasel; 03 November 2024, 11:51 AM.

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        • oiaohm
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 8507

          Originally posted by mSparks
          DPRK is buying invaluable combat experience for its troops and russian expertise for its nuclear program so they can do as well against us trained troops at home as the russians have in eastern donbass.
          Few problems here.
          1) You only have invaluable combat experience if your troops survive.
          2) DPRK is still technically at war with south Korea.
          3) Russia has been averaging 12 to 1 loss rate in eastern Donbass

          Yes the DPRK troops need to able to lot better. DPRK is a population of about 26 million. south korea is 52 million. Yes they need a 2 to 1 kill rate. A 1 to 1 kill rate is absolutely not good enough. The 12 to 1 eastern Donbass has with Russia if the DPRK is that bad South Korea should go bugger it just invaide the north Korea and solve the problem.

          There is a lot of danger for DPRK entering this war if it shows their armed forces under perform like the Russia army has. Yes that point 2 that they are still at war South Korea does not have to declare war if they decide to take action because they are at war.

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          • mSparks
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 2124

            Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
            1) You only have invaluable combat experience if your troops survive.
            2) DPRK is still technically at war with south Korea.
            Kursk will be a turkey shoot for the DPRK, everyone getting actual battlefield reports had been wondering for a month plus why all the Russians did was box them in then sit tight and wait.

            And yep, 2 is definitely a big problem, bet South Korea is very pleased the US has escalated the conflict in Ukraine so much it now really puts them in danger.

            Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
            3) Russia has been averaging 12 to 1 loss rate in eastern Donbass​
            Neither side is counting its losses, but as we discussed a few pages before that is completely implausible, Russian tactics are to completely obliterate Ukrainian forces from extreme range with guided aviation rockets and artillery, then tidy up with drones, then when there are only a few well dug in Ukrainian troops left alive they move in, often with the APCs taking hits (mostly non fatal casualties). You could count the entire Russian losses from Ukrainian videos, they publish any time they actually get a hit, and even sometimes when they didn't. The only time I am aware of where they went in far to early and took a decent (hundred or so) number of wounded was ugladar - and that fell a week or two after.

            Ukraine threw hundreds of waves of thousands of troops at a time equipped with short range (less than 2km) weapons into Robotyne, Bahmut, Adiivka, Severodonetsk etc over many, many months, virtually none of them saw a Russian soldier to shoot at (because they were all 10km+ away - hence the desire for ATCMS), virtually none of them came out alive (hence the term meat grinder).

            Plus, aiui, Ukraines biggest problem with falsifying their battle casualties is an acute shortage of blood supplies (which they deny), resulting in many soldiers (~25%) dying from what would otherwise be "minor" injuries.

            There's a PMC on that now



            Then you have to consider the current life expectancy for a new ukrainian recruit, although I hesitate to post


            Because it might put some here off signing up.
            Last edited by mSparks; 03 November 2024, 04:23 PM.

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            • oiaohm
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 8507

              Originally posted by mSparks View Post
              You could count the entire Russian losses from Ukrainian videos, they publish any time they actually get a hit, and even sometimes when they didn't.
              Open source intlegence you know the ones tracking sat photos and the like tell you that Ukrainian videos are not published for every hit APC.



              Yes APC for one Ukrainian damaged APC 3 russian ones are damaged and that at best.


              Russian tactics are to completely obliterate Ukrainian forces from extreme range with guided aviation rockets and artillery
              This does turn out to backfire. By completely obliterate means when your forces move forwards they have zero shelter to move into.

              Neither side is counting its losses<< But that does not mean no party is. The reality is Russia is not doing well. Ukraine is absolute under supplied but Russia tattics are absolute garbage. Yes If Russia and Ukraine was fighting with a 1 to 1 ratio Russia would have taken the complete country by now.

              Number of total forced deployed with speed of land grab does give you where the loss ratio has to be as well.

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              • mSparks
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 2124

                Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                Open source intlegence you know the ones tracking sat photos and the like tell you that Ukrainian videos are not published for every hit APC.



                Yes APC for one Ukrainian damaged APC 3 russian ones are damaged and that at best.




                This does turn out to backfire. By completely obliterate means when your forces move forwards they have zero shelter to move into.

                Neither side is counting its losses<< But that does not mean no party is. The reality is Russia is not doing well. Ukraine is absolute under supplied but Russia tattics are absolute garbage. Yes If Russia and Ukraine was fighting with a 1 to 1 ratio Russia would have taken the complete country by now.

                Number of total forced deployed with speed of land grab does give you where the loss ratio has to be as well.
                well, again, how many combat troops does UA have today? 50,000?

                Also, if you see anyone claiming casualties based on russian armour damage, just ignore them for being morons. Russian armour is disposable, they have so much in storage it has been cheaper to scuttle/abandon them after an attack (which you will almost always see in final russian assault videos) than fill them with enough fuel to return to base when they run out of ammo or deploy their troops. - anything older than 10 or 15 years was far far more likely to just have been abandoned than lost in combat, this is why most UA drone videos you see are them hitting seemingly undamaged, ancient, unmanned tanks and APCs.
                Last edited by mSparks; 03 November 2024, 06:24 PM.

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                • oiaohm
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2017
                  • 8507

                  Originally posted by mSparks View Post
                  Also, if you see anyone claiming casualties based on russian armour damage, just ignore them for being morons. Russian armour is disposable, they have so much in storage it has been cheaper to scuttle/abandon them after an attack
                  There is something that you just wrote that should have alarm bells ringing if you are think.

                  Yes Rusian idiot forces treat armor as disposable because they have so much in storage. One problem at least 2/3 of what was in storage is no longer there. They have been consuming their equipment faster than they can make it. Moving that armor out of storage to the front lines cost Russia railing bearings they cannot place.

                  mSparks storage does not equal production. Storage is a finite amount. Going that we can to X tactical plan because we have X amount is storage is pure idiot for a long term war. A long term war everything need to be calculated based on production rates and the battle tactic optimized for it.

                  So one two things will happen the storage will hit zero or the trains that deliver the armor will break both result in same outcome areas of the front line on the Russia side will be left without armor facing off against a side with armor.

                  Yes making bigger and bigger gliding bombs is also shorting the aircraft life span. Tell me how fast can Russia make new aircraft that carry these bombs that right not as fast as they are losing the aircraft. At some point the means to make gliding bombs will not be important because Russia will not have the aircraft to deliver them.

                  Long term war is a game of logistic more than anything else. You require equipment usage efficiency. Wasteful use of equipment long term will break your logistics and when you logistics fail so do your front lines.

                  If you watch carefully Ukraine gets equipment but where it come from has been back-filled with new equipment. Over all the west arm storage is not reducing it in fact growing.

                  Here is the if Russia claim is valid of Ukraine the following comes a problem:

                  Then china claim to its land it had before the Century of humiliation is also valid. So Russia should hand over it Pacific Fleet to china that would cut off North Korea.

                  China being supporting at this stage for Russia is absolutely not a good thing.

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                  • mSparks
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 2124

                    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post

                    There is something that you just wrote that should have alarm bells ringing if you are think.

                    Yes Rusian idiot forces treat armor as disposable because they have so much in storage. One problem at least 2/3 of what was in storage is no longer there. They have been consuming their equipment faster than they can make it.
                    congrats on falling for proper western propaganda.

                    This claim is at least as idiotic as claims such as Russia having run out of missiles/planes/artillery.

                    firstly, modern Russian tanks and apcs are at least as good as any of their western analogues, probably better, because they are far easier and cheaper to produce/maintain with better armour and a faster rate of fire.

                    secondly, Russia isn't close to even thinking about running a war economy, even without switching to a war economy they could very easily repurpose their very large steel, titanium and vehicle production facilities to pump every type of military vehicle off the production line by the thousands a month with virtually no one in Russia even noticing, at least no more visible than europe has noticed the VW factories closing in Germany. They haven't because for Russia this is still just a military operation, not a war.

                    thirdly, since all the abandoned vehicles from both sides are now on their side of the front line, it would take only minimally more effort to repair most of what they abandoned rather than ship old stock from storage if they actually needed to, which they dont and wont ever need to.

                    Forthly, and most importantly, ukraine actually has run out of planes, AA systems, tanks and apcs, they rolled the last of what they bought from the US and EU on credit into kursk, where it will all soon be completely destroyed by the DPRK as part of their training. US, UK and the EU can't even produce basic steel any more, let alone military armour, they have to import it all from .... Russia and China.
                    Last edited by mSparks; 03 November 2024, 08:35 PM.

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                    • oiaohm
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 8507

                      Originally posted by mSparks View Post
                      congrats on falling for proper western propaganda.
                      ​No there are sat maps of USSR storage.

                      Originally posted by mSparks View Post
                      firstly, modern Russian tanks and apcs are at least as good as any of their western analogues, probably better, because they are far easier and cheaper to produce maintain with a faster rate of fire..
                      This one depends on the tank and APC. German Leopard 2 maintenance is less than Russian tank. Yes when it 12 cycinder engine is basically to v6 truck engines kind of makes sense why parts are kind of simple to get and majority of your general parts are standard parts. It comes clear when you see the Russian attempting to damage one to make it look bad for a display how tough these are in fact built.

                      For logistics is faster rate of fire a good thing in a tank? The answer is no. Thing to remember having a human loader is slower but it also means you can have mixed rounds and load the most suitable one for target so saving on logistics. There is upsides to the Russian tanks faster fire rate but there is a logistical down side. Also there is tactical limitation of the Russian auto-loader. Take a westen tanks crew can go hey there is a trench up there lets use a fragmentation shell for that instead of a armor breaching shell.

                      This is why lot of armies have defaulted to most of there solders weapons not having full auto but instead be restricted to 3 round burst. Save logistics.

                      Originally posted by mSparks View Post
                      secondly, Russia isn't close to even thinking about running a war economy, even without switching to a war economy they could very easily repurpose their very large steel and vehicle production facilities to pump every type of military vehicle off the production line by the thousands a month with virtually no one in Russia even noticing, .
                      Horrible point here is not all vehicle productions can make APC or tanks there is a weight issue and handling equipment issue. Also does not help that China has been targeting the vehicle production facilities inside Russia. Yes buy them out and take the engine production part back to china. This is what Chery and other from China have done.

                      So this is if Russia still has functional vehicle production facilities to convert does your idea stand a chance. This is why i said China is not Russia friend. Basically make the vehicle shells in russia but all the important engine/electronics from china.

                      Now to make more big military vehicles you need engines. China is only giving Russia engines for non armored vehicle. Russia armor vehicle production this is tanks and APCs is capped by a single factory they have to make engines for those vehicles and there is not factory under construction to make more inside Russia. This is why Ukraine is being so careful that any one they cannot recover that they major damage the engine block.

                      Also it gets more fun Kharkov Locomotive Plant is where the base design of the Russian tank and APC engine comes from that right Ukrainian design. Kind of explains why the Ukrainians know exactly where to hit to break them. Yes that location comes the Malyshev Plant.

                      Originally posted by mSparks View Post
                      thirdly, since all the abandoned vehicles from both sides are now on their side of the front line, it would take only minimally more effort to repair most of what they abandoned rather than ship old stock from storage if they actually needed to, which they dont and wont ever need to.
                      The answer is no because the Ukraine side recovering what they can now and doing as much possible damage to what they cannot. Yes the problem is the Ukrainians know exactly where they need to damage it not guess work. So what is left in the middle ground will require lots work. Yes repairing a damaged tank for the Russian will come as close to be as costly as making a new one thinking both will consume the limited supply of engine blocks.

                      This is the problem when you look at logistics you start seeing critical problems in Russian logistics that are hidden by USSR storage but when that storage runs out or become no longer accessible in timely way bad things are going to happen quickly.

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