Torvalds is at fault here. Sure, he is right about the technical problems, but as the leader of the kernel project should he not waste his time with beginners. Some beginners just need more time, have learning difficulties, private problems, disorders, lack social skills, etc. and just cannot deliver the quality and skill required. Torvalds needs to see his own time as valuable and not waste it on running a kindergarten. He is obviously not getting happy with it, but only more frustrated. It is time he injects an intermediate maintainer to handle such cases. Someone with training in psychology for example and who is mentally prepared to take on the burden of handling misfits.
Bcachefs Fixes Pull Once Again Frustrates Linus Torvalds - Two Choices Offered
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Originally posted by reavertm View PostSo.. what is bcachefs appeal, considering 10+ other battle-tested filesystems supported in kernel already? Why would anyone write new filesystem these days and say "why don't you try to write filesystem" as if whole world was waiting in patience for it? Seriously.
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First time where i actually agree that kent is being completely unprofessional. Why does he have to make everything into drama? And when being called out, he pours gasoline onto the fire. What good is funding if the user of the funds is unable to do team work?
I don't see a problem with the churn and large changes going in constantly, as long as they don't break the build for others, because bcachefs itself is experimental. But it happened. It should have been the point where he stop and reconsider his model. And at the very least get CI that covers all archs.Last edited by varikonniemi; 06 October 2024, 06:13 AM.
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Originally posted by sdack View PostIt is time he injects an intermediate maintainer to handle such cases. Someone with training in psychology for example and who is mentally prepared to take on the burden of handling misfits.
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Originally posted by sdack View PostTorvalds is at fault here.
It is time he injects an intermediate maintainer to handle such cases.
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It's nice to get the drama updates from LKML.
But why do we never get drama updates from GNOME?
Like when the one foundation board member Gnomie got kicked out of the whole project, we didn't get an article. When the one Gnome got kicked out of freedesktop.org, afaik we also didn't get one (i might be wrong on this one).
The Gnome gitlab is a treasure trove of drama and incompetent cancerous developers (mostly employed by RedHat).
You are missing out on lots of fun.
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Originally posted by erniv2 View Post
But that does not give Linus the right to threaten (i´ll just axe bcachefs cause you piss me off), he has the right to just nak that pull but not the right to embress a developer that put so much thaught into a new filesystem that many pepole eagerly want to succeed.
Hes a egoistic one man show who build a filesystem ontop of the existing bcache code whos main feature is "at least not btrfs" to those who still are unable to accept that btrfs has its struggles in the beginning but is state now a rock solid FS for all the features advertised as rock solid.
No one wants to axe bcachefs, it won't die just because it again has to live outside mainline. It just means that Kent will be able to do whatever he wants. No testing, direct merging, directly pushing his trash out the door. And Linus can go back to what he does well, steer the kernel for excellence.
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Originally posted by sdack View PostTorvalds is at fault here. Sure, he is right about the technical problems, but as the leader of the kernel project should he not waste his time with beginners. Some beginners just need more time, have learning difficulties, private problems, disorders, lack social skills, etc. and just cannot deliver the quality and skill required. Torvalds needs to see his own time as valuable and not waste it on running a kindergarten. He is obviously not getting happy with it, but only more frustrated. It is time he injects an intermediate maintainer to handle such cases. Someone with training in psychology for example and who is mentally prepared to take on the burden of handling misfits.
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Originally posted by hf_139 View PostIt's nice to get the drama updates from LKML.
But why do we never get drama updates from GNOME?
Like when the one foundation board member Gnomie got kicked out of the whole project, we didn't get an article. When the one Gnome got kicked out of freedesktop.org, afaik we also didn't get one (i might be wrong on this one).
The Gnome gitlab is a treasure trove of drama and incompetent cancerous developers (mostly employed by RedHat).
You are missing out on lots of fun.
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