Bcachefs Fixes Pull Once Again Frustrates Linus Torvalds - Two Choices Offered

[PuckPoltergeist]

For what... All I'm seeing is some grump ad getting pissy over ML usage when they should have stopped using MLs a decade ago... And iterator vs recursive probably any half decent AI code transformer could rewrite that in 30sec...

It's nearly 2025 and they are still hand formatting quotes....

Oh yeah, offending others because of the process is a very good idea. Especially when the other person can't change anything of the process It's not a singularity, Kent seems to offend others whenever he can.

And it doesn't matter if someone right as hell with technical issues. Offending somebody is the best way to not get anything changed

[cb88]

Why should somebody review code for getting pissed on for this?
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ivjo62ghagmcoacjdtoute7mzwkcj3gu6hgdygjry5x7uiqgid @6axrxbn5auvy/

For what... All I'm seeing is some grump ad getting pissy over ML usage when they should have stopped using MLs a decade ago... And iterator vs recursive probably any half decent AI code transformer could rewrite that in 30sec...

It's nearly 2025 and they are still hand formatting quotes....

[PuckPoltergeist]

If it's such a popular system and IBM cares so much about the z-architecture and it's users, then why doesn't IBM donate their mainframe for Linux kernel test builds?

You can't blame Kent for IBM not donating their system to be tested.

You can bet there are mainframes for CI, just not for public. If IBM doesn't donate hardware to Kent, maybe they just aren't interested in bcachefs?

[PuckPoltergeist]

Pissing on the guy in public doesn't exactly make people want to review his patches more either... this SHOULD have been a call to other interested developers to review Kent's patches more rather than lambasting him for what OTHER people are not doing.

I mean what do you expect the guy to do let his fixes languish forever while your mainline kernel trots ahead...

Why should somebody review code for getting pissed on for this?

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ivjo62ghagmcoacjdtoute7mzwkcj3gu6hgdygjry5x7uiqgid@6axrxbn5auvy/

[gotar]

If only bcachefs was written in rust.. we wouldn't have all this drama...

You're wrong. Such filesystem (CoW, multidevice) is prone to logic errors (including out-of-code - like hardware, races), not only memory management ones.
And if some safeguards are not spotted on time, you'll have to change on-disk format eventually (btrfs case).

[cb88]

Wow another drama, actually they are both assholes that think they know better, the one that does not get his patches reviewed and the guy that is stubborn and threatens to remove the hole project is no better.

Pissing on the guy in public doesn't exactly make people want to review his patches more either... this SHOULD have been a call to other interested developers to review Kent's patches more rather than lambasting him for what OTHER people are not doing.

I mean what do you expect the guy to do let his fixes languish forever while your mainline kernel trots ahead...

[gotar]

It seems like a lot more than the "Experimental" flag is gonna get removed in the next year.

Yeah, the "experimental" flag would go away. One way ...or another.

[mdedetrich]

You keep saying this, despite being proven wrong. The IBM-z system is actively manufactured, and in use. The newest model was literally announced this year ffs. It's a popular system. Just because your favorite project doesn't care about it doesn't mean others don't. I'd even go so far as to say that far, FAR more people use and care about IBM-z than people who care about bcachefs.

Learn to read. I said that the only systems with big endian are either decades old OR are mainframes. IBM-z system is a mainframe, I don't think its realistic to expect Kent to dump hundreds of thousands, if not millions to buy a mainframe for his home but I could be wrong.

Maybe you can buy an ibm-z mainframe and send it to him

My favorite part of that quote is that Linus did write several filesystem drivers at the very start of Linux.

And when Linus wrote this filesystems, these processes didn't even exist something that Kent ironically pointed out to him

[Daktyl198]

The main issue is that Kent thinks that he knows best and everyone else is a drooling idiot and he and only he can save the world with his wonderful FS.

Also, after this, I don't know what he thinks about himself and his place in the world (no, my bad, we can clearly see what exactly he thinks about himself and the world):

My favorite part of that quote is that Linus did write several filesystem drivers at the very start of Linux.

[Daktyl198]

being only able to find out once every 3 months that your code doesn't build on an architecture which literally no one manufacturers anymore is a fuken terrible way to work, it should be a nightly CI run.

You keep saying this, despite being proven wrong. The IBM-z system is actively manufactured, and in use. The newest model was literally announced this year ffs. It's a popular system. Just because your favorite project doesn't care about it doesn't mean others don't. I'd even go so far as to say that far, FAR more people use and care about IBM-z than people who care about bcachefs.