Bcachefs Fixes Pull Once Again Frustrates Linus Torvalds - Two Choices Offered

[PuckPoltergeist]

Pissing on the guy in public doesn't exactly make people want to review his patches more either... this SHOULD have been a call to other interested developers to review Kent's patches more rather than lambasting him for what OTHER people are not doing.

I mean what do you expect the guy to do let his fixes languish forever while your mainline kernel trots ahead...

Why should somebody review code for getting pissed on for this?

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ivjo62ghagmcoacjdtoute7mzwkcj3gu6hgdygjry5x7uiqgid@6axrxbn5auvy/

[PuckPoltergeist]

If it's such a popular system and IBM cares so much about the z-architecture and it's users, then why doesn't IBM donate their mainframe for Linux kernel test builds?

You can't blame Kent for IBM not donating their system to be tested.

You can bet there are mainframes for CI, just not for public. If IBM doesn't donate hardware to Kent, maybe they just aren't interested in bcachefs?

[cb88]

Why should somebody review code for getting pissed on for this?
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/ivjo62ghagmcoacjdtoute7mzwkcj3gu6hgdygjry5x7uiqgid @6axrxbn5auvy/

For what... All I'm seeing is some grump ad getting pissy over ML usage when they should have stopped using MLs a decade ago... And iterator vs recursive probably any half decent AI code transformer could rewrite that in 30sec...

It's nearly 2025 and they are still hand formatting quotes....

[PuckPoltergeist]

For what... All I'm seeing is some grump ad getting pissy over ML usage when they should have stopped using MLs a decade ago... And iterator vs recursive probably any half decent AI code transformer could rewrite that in 30sec...

It's nearly 2025 and they are still hand formatting quotes....

Oh yeah, offending others because of the process is a very good idea. Especially when the other person can't change anything of the process It's not a singularity, Kent seems to offend others whenever he can.

And it doesn't matter if someone right as hell with technical issues. Offending somebody is the best way to not get anything changed

[PuckPoltergeist]

Also, I'm obviously not talking about IBM donating hardware to Kent.

I'm talking about IBM not donating their z-architecture for the Linux kernel test builds.

And I'm just addressing the part with the interests. Corporations spending money in things they are interested in. IBM is interested in Linux, obviously. If they are interested in bcachefs too, they would spent hardware for this. But they aren't, they are just interested in a very small niche. Most Linux users a irrelevant as fuck to them.

edit: Oh and btw. I would expect IBM is more interested in XFS today, as they own Red Hat now.

edit2: Kent is "crucified" for offending others and not working together, ignoring change request over and over again.

[PuckPoltergeist]

So, we should kick Kent out of the Linux mainline because IBM isn't interested in his filesystem, and because IBM doesn't care about the rest of us, the peasants.

Excellent argument... it proves what I have been afraid of.

That's what you said. Don't know, where you read this from?

[PuckPoltergeist]

edit2: Kent is "crucified" for offending others and not working together, ignoring change request over and over again.

For the crucified-part:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/172816780614.3194359.10913571563159868953.pr-tracker-bot@kernel.org/T/#mc6d27ba23a665dbe348c93c7a85377fdcdb8a198

[Errinwright]

Already read this. Seems my understanding doesn't match yours


MM-devs NAKed, VFS-devs NAKed, the guy who says, he's the only one who knows right, pushed through his own tree. I'm reading fsdevel...


It's running for next and stable. But I forgot, bcachefs is so mature and stable and perfect, it doesn't need any stable-fixes.

As I said, we had this several times before. It's just another round with other player(s). Taking my popcorn and enjoy the show

Should perhaps re-read if that is your conclusion

[LockedPotato]

He didn't push patches with zero testing, stop spreading lies.

I mean...

And before you start whining - again - about how you are fixing bugs, let me remind you about the build failures you had on big-endian machines because your patches had gotten ZERO testing outside your tree.

I was hoping and expecting that bcachefs being mainlined would actually help development. It has not. You're still basically the only developer, there's no real sign that that will change, and you seem to feel like sending me untested stuff that nobody else has ever seen the day before the next rc release is just fine.

So if this is just your project and nobody else is expected to participate, and you don't care about the fact that you break the mainline build, why the hell did you want to be in the mainline tree in the first place?

Literally read the article. Which seven mouth breathers liked your post?

[Daktyl198]

Learn to read. I said that the only systems with big endian are either decades old OR are mainframes.

Not in the vast majority of your comments. But pop off lol.

IBM-z system is a mainframe, I don't think its realistic to expect Kent to dump hundreds of thousands, if not millions to buy a mainframe for his home but I could be wrong.

Instead of having Kent buy a mainframe, how about he just stop touching code so far outside the reach of his filesystem that he's breaking builds on hardware he doesn't support or ever intend to support... and then submitting those changes the day before RC...

And when Linus wrote this filesystems, these processes didn't even exist something that Kent ironically pointed out to him

Which has nothing to do with Kent's original taunt.