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  • Markelov69
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    Originally posted by byteabit View Post

    Here in middle earth Germany too. In some cases the EU does actually do good things, like forcing Apple to use standard USB connections and many other things across the computer industry. At one point Microsoft had to offer a choice of browsers, without one being installed at default. Not sure why this isn't a thing anymore. What I will tell you is, that if the EU didn't do all of this stuff, it would be probably worse. So I believe the EU makes a difference, it's just we expect more.

    And at least this might be a light in the dark: https://arstechnica.com/information-...ers-migrating/webweb However I remember the failed attempt in München...

    Edit: BTW China is also different to Microsoft. They created Ubuntu Kylin, because Microsoft is a US company.
    Thank you!

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  • byteabit
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    Originally posted by qarium View Post
    EU does not make a big difference i life in the EU and microsoft lifes here in germany as good as everywhere else.
    Here in middle earth Germany too. In some cases the EU does actually do good things, like forcing Apple to use standard USB connections and many other things across the computer industry. At one point Microsoft had to offer a choice of browsers, without one being installed at default. Not sure why this isn't a thing anymore. What I will tell you is, that if the EU didn't do all of this stuff, it would be probably worse. So I believe the EU makes a difference, it's just we expect more.

    And at least this might be a light in the dark: https://arstechnica.com/information-...ers-migrating/ However I remember the failed attempt in München...

    Edit: BTW China is also different to Microsoft. They created Ubuntu Kylin, because Microsoft is a US company.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Yeah, I didn't consider the EU.
    EU does not make a big difference i life in the EU and microsoft lifes here in germany as good as everywhere else.

    the only country world wide who really is different to microsoft is russia in russia linux and reactOS is enforced and microsoft is banned.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    MS is doing right now to OpenAI what they did to Canonical, which is what they did to Nokia....You'd think these morons would know better than to put in with MS by now, it's a death sentence....
    EDIT: EEE all over again. MS recently announced they don't need OpenAI at all, next step is exterminate...
    EDIT: I wonder how many more times MS can thrive after being convicted of antitrust? It's what 6 antitrust convictions now? EDIT: just checked and apparently only 1 conviction in 2000, but there was 2 more settled out of court without convictions. Somehow I thought it was more....
    you are right and it is plain and simple so that everything what microsoft touches will die a slow and painfull death.

    and of course it is FUD and EEE all over again... Ubuntu Canonical and also OpenAI is death by now.

    these fake antitrust convidtions are a joke in a real state microsoft would be banned. like in russia.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by Old Grouch View Post

    English might not be your first language, so:

    There is a difference between affected and effected.

    The word affect has several different meanings. When used as a verb, it most frequently means to influence something. So affected means that something was influenced

    The word effect has several different meanings. When used as a verb, it means to make something happen. So effected means that something was caused to happen.

    English is complicated, unfortunately. People differ in their opinions on what language it would be better replaced by.
    Oh thanks. My grammar isn't good.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by byteabit View Post

    That's because most don't have the money and time to got after Microsoft, so it don't go to court and is not an official conviction. Also did you just look up for the US? The EU in example sanctioned and fined Microsoft multiple times.
    Yeah, I didn't consider the EU.

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  • Old Grouch
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post

    Well that's not true at all....

    Actually, it was only debian and redhat effected, ...
    English might not be your first language, so:

    There is a difference between affected and effected.

    The word affect has several different meanings. When used as a verb, it most frequently means to influence something. So affected means that something was influenced

    The word effect has several different meanings. When used as a verb, it means to make something happen. So effected means that something was caused to happen.

    English is complicated, unfortunately. People differ in their opinions on what language it would be better replaced by.

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  • byteabit
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    was 2 more settled out of court without convictions. Somehow I thought it was more....
    That's because most don't have the money and time to got after Microsoft, so it don't go to court and is not an official conviction. Also did you just look up for the US? The EU in example sanctioned and fined Microsoft multiple times.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by qarium View Post

    right... any sane person left ubuntu at the time Microsoft invested money in ubuntu.

    and microsoft's money also is the reason why they keep up this insane snap vs flatpak war going on.

    also keep in mind back in time this mir vs wayland was also created by the same people

    and my opinion is that gbm vs eglstreams was also from the same people.

    and DirectX vs OpenGL was also from the same people to sapotage a open standard.


    however snap turns a open-source distro into a closed source proprietary distro because no one can use snap outside of their walled garden shop.
    MS is doing right now to OpenAI what they did to Canonical, which is what they did to Nokia....You'd think these morons would know better than to put in with MS by now, it's a death sentence....

    EDIT: EEE all over again. MS recently announced they don't need OpenAI at all, next step is exterminate...

    EDIT: I wonder how many more times MS can thrive after being convicted of antitrust? It's what 6 antitrust convictions now? EDIT: just checked and apparently only 1 conviction in 2000, but there was 2 more settled out of court without convictions. Somehow I thought it was more....
    Last edited by duby229; 05 April 2024, 01:02 AM.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    Well that's not true at all....
    Actually, it was only debian and redhat effected, the two biggest so called "stable" distros... -NONE- of the rolling release distro's were effected at all. They all have unstable, testing and stable branches -exactly- for this reason....
    EDIT: Why is it that time after time it's always redhat or debian that proves to be the most unstable? The two biggest so called "stable" distro's are easily by -FAR- the most unstable...
    well... interesting view... but it really sounds strange to me because no stable release of redhat and debian was ever affected ?
    it was in debian unstable and i think debian testing but not in debian 12 stable release.
    it was in fedora development branch(41) and it did not even hit fedora 40 beta...

    well i am pretty sure you can handle ARCH right just look how Valve manage it for the steam deck these people never even come into contact of the rolling release factor.

    "EDIT: Why is it that time after time it's always redhat or debian that proves to be the most unstable? The two biggest so called "stable" distro's are easily by -FAR- the most unstable..."

    i honestly don't know. its a interesting question. i think for debian you can easily answer it they lag of "paid" developer manpower

    for the redhat distros the question is much more complex they have paid developer manpower

    my educated guess is that redhat and linux in general suffer from the lag of standardisation

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