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  • Originally posted by ququk View Post
    I found this with keywords right after your comment and put it as it shows some real people who actually use I believe Ukrainian or maybe Russian. I don't care about sky news, and don't actually watch it at all. I don't watch a lot of TV at all.

    And yeah i rechecked that and will stand corrected. I think Al Jazeera will be much better source https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...children-study
    Sorry its pure propaganda.
    And its easily debunked..

    At the beginning they say that Russia is sending children's to a re-education camp,its a red flag right there!!
    Does you know what is a re-education camp??yeah right.
    Bellow they show a super intimidating picture of a soldier, with a big gun in its hands..its a second red flag right there!!

    Those both things doesn't belong, to the Famous Artek Camps..
    If you want to know what the Artek camps are, you can see videos on Youtube, and judge for yourself:
    Huge thanks to Yura and Karina at the Artek press centre for their help in this! Artek website is here - https://artek.org/

    Thanks for watching, please do leave a comment, engage! If you'd like to support my work, all independent, crowdfunded, email me at [email protected] Like ...


    What is the objective?To dehumanize the Russians!

    Do you still think that Russia made a bad decision to take those children's out of a war zone to Artek??
    In my opinion they are fare better in this camps.
    Does Russia committed a "war crime" for, taking them out of a war zone, and send this children's to this camps?
    I don't think so...its a politicized thing, and I will ignore it.
    Last edited by tuxd3v; 19 March 2023, 08:28 AM.

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    • Fine. I'm not Court to say how it was. However this is really disturbing and hopefully​ International Criminal Court​ will check the case ASAP.

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      • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
        Do you still think that Russia made a bad decision to take those children's out of a war zone to Artek??
        In my opinion they are fare better in this camps.
        Does Russia committed a "war crime" for, taking them out of a war zone, and send this children's to this camps?
        I don't think so...its a politicized thing, and I will ignore it.
        If it's in Ukranian territory then yes its a war crime since it's none of Russia's business (Russian aggression also created the conflict zone in the first place)

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        • Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post
          If it's in Ukranian territory then yes its a war crime since it's none of Russia's business (Russian aggression also created the conflict zone in the first place)
          What?
          Don't distort facts please.
          Western Ukraine sent its army to kill the civilians of donbass, in 2014, its a fact!
          Ukraine has being in a Civil war since then, and Russia only entered the conflict in 2022, just to end it!
          By International Law the people of donbass has the right to self-determination!

          Why are you saying that was Russia who created the conflict?You know very well that is not true!

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          • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            Western Ukraine sent its army to kill the civilians of donbass, in 2014, its a fact!
            Nope
            Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            Ukraine has being in a Civil war since then, and Russia only entered the conflict in 2022, just to end it!
            Also nope. Its in a war with Russia because Russia sent its army into donbas, thats why the fighting is happening
            Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            By International Law the people of donbass has the right to self-determination!
            Also wrong, I don't think you understand what international law means
            Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            Why are you saying that was Russia who created the conflict?You know very well that is not true!
            If you cannot accept that people have a different opinion (which in this case happens to be a reality) then you should probably ask yourself why you have the views you do.

            Russia is an imperial colonial aggressor. This is why almost every country surrounding Russia, if possible, wants to join NATO because Russia knows if a single Russian troop steps inside of a NATO country they are screwed. Only exception to this is Finland, and thats because Finland is the most militarized country in EU (and Russia had massive losses against them in the latest war, see winter war). Also Finland is about to join NATO now anyways.
            Last edited by mdedetrich; 19 March 2023, 11:12 AM.

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            • Actually not Russians are inhuman, their "government" chosen in faked election is inhuman and puts their citizens in situation with no choice, try do demoralize them.

              Donbass "gouverment" same also was not chosen in fair election. You can't put Russian "little green men" inside another country and claim everything is OK because you outsmart everyone.​

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              • Originally posted by ququk View Post
                Actually not Russians are inhuman, their "government" chosen in faked election is inhuman and puts their citizens in situation with no choice, try do demoralize them.
                Agreed

                Originally posted by ququk View Post
                Donbass "gouverment" same also was not chosen in fair election. You can't put Russian "little green men" inside another country and claim everything is OK because you outsmart everyone.​
                Exactly, and for those wondering how this relates to ICC, in order for a region to legally claim independence they have to participate in fair elections that is accepted by ALL countries/governments in question. In the case of Donbas (and other regions) in Ukraine, this means both Ukraine and Russia would have to accept the results of the vote, ideally with oversight from UN. This has historic precedent, i.e. Saar region after WW2 (Saar was originally "French" but the inhabitants voted to become part of Germany, the critical part is both Germany AND France accepted the vote).

                This of course did not happen with Ukraine, Ukraine did not accept any of the votes because they were fake/rigged and there wasn't a neutral UN party overlooking them. This is why the annexation of the various Ukrainian territories by Russia is illegal and not recognized under international law. Russia (or another other country for that matter) cannot just silently invade a country and create a fake election to claim independence.

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                • I’m sure Ukraine will be grateful for making network drivers worse for everyone!

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                  • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                    So you killed 27 million innocent lives,
                    And know you are complaining that the Russians were not your friends?
                    Get a grip!
                    You're Crazy I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not complaining about Russians not being Friends & I wasn't Defending the Nazis either.
                    I was talking about the German People.

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                    • there's no place for russian terrorists in civilized world.

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