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  • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    They are Russian children's..Ukraine already killed their parents and you want them to do what to those Russians?
    Of course, Russia needs to protect them!
    I would really like to know what you and Putin are smoking.

    If you are going to say hilariously crazy stuff, stuck to illuminat lizard men, at least that's more entertaining and could make a good B grade sci fi.

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    • Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post
      I would really like to know what you and Putin are smoking.

      If you are going to say hilariously crazy stuff, stuck to illuminat lizard men, at least that's more entertaining and could make a good B grade sci fi.
      So tell me what is your solution for the problem?
      Will Russia deliver this children's to their own butchers, to the ones that killed their Father and Mother...and probably wanted to kill them too?

      Tell me what is your solution for those children's..if you have one.

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      • So according to your source this has been faked by imperialistic Brits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai4zz56d46E
        Killed, with no family. All is the theatre for naive west. Good you know better.

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        • Originally posted by ququk View Post
          So according to your source this has been faked by imperialistic Brits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai4zz56d46E
          Killed, with no family. All is the theatre for naive west. Good you know better.
          Ho boy...this is just crazy..
          Its pure propaganda!!
          sky news...omg.

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          • Originally posted by Weasel View Post
            Of course it is? It's the europeans, not just the British (same happened with the Spanish in Latin America), and I'm not even US citizen. But note that it's the historic europeans, which means nothing for the present day, whether you like it or not.

            Why stop there? Go back to the Roman empire and persecute them and their descendants for war crimes? (which is basically the whole world)

            Grow up.
            Generally, I'd agree with that last sentiment. How far can one go back.

            Except the same 'traditions' the Europeans used are still being actively utilised.

            Can't even blame the previous government for what goes on now. The actions of one, so on so forth.
            Hi

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            • Dis someone say Sky News? omg, on behalf of every right thinking Australian, we are sorry Planet Earth for Rupert.
              Hi

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              • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                Ho boy...this is just crazy..
                Its pure propaganda!!
                sky news...omg.
                I found this with keywords right after your comment and put it as it shows some real people who actually use I believe Ukrainian or maybe Russian. I don't care about sky news, and don't actually watch it at all. I don't watch a lot of TV at all.

                And yeah i rechecked that and will stand corrected. I think Al Jazeera will be much better source https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...children-study

                The children included those with parents or obvious family guardians, those Russia deemed orphans, others who were in the care of Ukrainian state institutions before the invasion, and those whose custody was unclear or uncertain due to the war, the report said.

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                • Originally posted by ququk View Post
                  I found this with keywords right after your comment and put it as it shows some real people who actually use I believe Ukrainian or maybe Russian. I don't care about sky news, and don't actually watch it at all. I don't watch a lot of TV at all.

                  And yeah i rechecked that and will stand corrected. I think Al Jazeera will be much better source https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...children-study


                  I mean the ICC report regarding war crimes is as objective as you can get because they use actual evidence of facts from the ground and statements from Russian officials. Thats not propaganda (it may be hard for some people to accept, but the definition of propaganda is not something that makes Russia look bad).

                  A lot of Russian's are running around saying that any news that doesn't originate from their own country is propaganda, when they don't even realize that certain things are hard to hide (i.e. mass burial graves which can be verified by satellite footage, or entire cities being blown up by looking at before and after satellite shots).
                  Last edited by mdedetrich; 19 March 2023, 06:28 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post
                    I mean the ICC report regarding war crimes is as objective as you can get because they use actual evidence of facts from the ground and statements from Russian officials. Thats not propaganda (it may be hard for some people to accept, but the definition of propaganda is not something that makes Russia look bad).

                    A lot of Russian's are running around saying that any news that doesn't originate from their own country is propaganda, when they don't even realize that certain things are hard to hide (i.e. mass burial graves which can be verified by satellite footage, or entire cities being blown up by looking at before and after satellite shots).
                    I don believe any news from our media!
                    Its all propaganda to dehumanize the Russians.
                    There are a lot of mass graves and as they are found they are being documented by the Russians since 2022, for the crimes Ukrainian have committed over more than 8 years of genocide.
                    Russia will create a International court to judge them.

                    However Russians do buried the body's of the deaths of course, and there are plenty of dead Russians, but its Ukraine that needs to pay for it.
                    This case is completely politicized, and its a shame!
                    I learned yesterday, that it seems that the International Criminal Court considers, the removal of people from a war zone, a war crime.
                    I need yet to understand such a thing.

                    Legally speaking its a complex case, because Russia and Ukraine are not signatories of the Rome statute.Russia,Ukraine(Ukraine is signatory of some parts of ICC ),China,US are not even signatories of ICC neither, and they don't even recognize their jurisdiction.

                    In my opinion, I do think that Russia took the right decision, those children's need to live!
                    And need to be put in a healthy environment.

                    Now, I don't know if those children's feel ok(probably with all the trauma, don't!), what I know is that they were sent to the Artek summer camps, which are some of the best summer camps in the world, and its were the Russian Elites put there children's...they are international camps!

                    Probably this children's will not adapt in those camps, because they are too much traumatized, but I hope they receive proper phycology advice.
                    Majority of those Children's, were sent there with the permission of their fathers, but some are homeless, and their fathers were killed in the war.

                    I don't know, but for me Russia took the right decision, however I do recognize that this children's are children's of war, and they are not "normal" children's...special care is needed to take care of them, and probably majority will not adapt in Artek, and will ask to return for the war zone.

                    Now, this is not a crime of war, in my perspective..
                    Crime of war is the genocide the Ukrainians have done, and continue to do!
                    I would love to see the ICC judging Zelinsky, and Poroshenko for that..but no, they chose to judge the one that is trying to save the children's...what a clown world.

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                    • Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                      In my opinion, I do think that Russia took the right decision, those children's need to live!
                      And need to be put in a healthy environment.
                      No they don't, these are children in Ukraine and Russia has no right whatsoever over them. Thats like US saying that it has claims to Russian children within Russia, it doesn't matter if there are reasons for it, this is a hard line thats always wrong. Forcefully taking children away from another country is part of ethnic genocide and there is a reason why.

                      Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
                      Now, this is not a crime of war, in my perspective..
                      Crime of war is the genocide the Ukrainians have done, and continue to do!
                      I would love to see the ICC judging Zelinsky, and Poroshenko for that..but no, they chose to judge the one that is trying to save the children's...what a clown world.
                      Thats never going to happen because Ukraine is not going into Russian soil stealing their children, you see the difference?

                      When you have Ukranian army rolling into St Peterbsurg/Moscow stealing Russian children, then you can start complaining to the ICC.
                      Last edited by mdedetrich; 19 March 2023, 07:49 AM.

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