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  • Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
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    You are naive. People are developing the vaccines right now and are continuing to work on them, because the vaccines will soon become ineffective and need to be improved. Nobody there has time to sit down, stop with what they are doing and write a book and teach another country how to make their own vaccine.

    It is merely a dream when somebody says "all we need are the blueprints and the know-how". It is (although a bit delusional) merely a hopeful expression. Like saying we would all need to stop producing CO2, or if we just had a better kernel than the current Linux kernel.

    Just because one can express something easily ("just needs this and that") does not mean it is also done easily.
    Last edited by sdack; 20 June 2021, 01:56 PM.

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    • Originally posted by sdack View Post
      Just because one can express something easily ("just needs this and that") does not mean it is also done easily.
      Ahh got you you think they did not document the process and the science behind their product, they just made the vaccine like the mage in asterix and obelisk.

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      • vaccines against common cold don't work very well. keeping isolation is more important.

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        • Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
          Ahh got you you think they did not document the process and the science behind their product, they just made the vaccine like the mage in asterix and obelisk.
          Sure they do, but as I said does it require skilled people to understand it and to turn it into a working vaccine. Do you understand this?

          That you want to compare this to Asterix and Obelix - if you only had the secret formula - then you could make a vaccine, too, seems to be your problem. It is not this simple, or do you think all you need is a big pot and you would only need to put all the ingredients in it, boil and stir it, and this then gives you your vaccine?

          Have you been at a university and have you studied yet? Do you have know-how of anything yet?
          Last edited by sdack; 20 June 2021, 04:13 PM.

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          • Originally posted by sdack View Post
            Sure they do, but as I said does it require skilled people to understand it and to turn it into a working vaccine. Do you understand this?

            That you want to compare this to Asterix and Obelix - if you only had the secret formula - then you could make a vaccine, too, seems to be your problem. It is not this simple, or do you think all you need is a big pot and you would only need to put all the ingredients in it, boil and stir it, and this then gives you your vaccine?

            Have you been at a university and have you studied yet? Do you have know-how of anything yet?
            I want to stay friendly and don't make that about personal attacks, but you do make strange deflecting arguments, when I make fun of your claim that they have to write a book sounds like YOU think they make the vaccine like the druid in Asterix and Obelix you can't just try to make a personal attack in saying that I would believe the process is that way. When I think you think it's that way does it not make me think that way.

            But if you strawman me that way it allows you to attack my character... I hope that is not intentional and only your ego or you have some sort of adhs, but if it's intentional then you gaslight me and who ever reads that with your strawman here.

            It's just not cool to make character attacks based on a straw men, argue your point if you can and if you can't it's not a shame to concede that your arguments weren't good.

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            • Originally posted by blackiwid View Post
              It's just not cool to make character attacks ...
              It was not an attack, but a question. Seeing now that you want to take it as attack tells me that you have no higher education, which means you have no experience.

              I dearly suggest you get a higher education, see what it is like to study and learn and to become a highly skilled worker who posses specialised know-how that can help the world.

              Until then do you have no idea how much effort it is to get such know-how.

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              • Appeal to expertise. How experienced or researched does someone have to be to talk about vaccines?

                Also, wouldn’t it also be the case that someone who has spent their life working on vaccines will end up having a more positive view on them?

                I’m all for vaccines, but that doesn’t mean I support the approach that some governments are taking in regards to administering it, or in their more authoritarian rules being thrust upon citizens.

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                • Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                  vaccines against common cold don't work very well. keeping isolation is more important.
                  I wonder if mRNA vaccines could be used against the common flu/cold.
                  I also wonder if in the future the seasonal flu will integrate the COVID19 strain(s), like with the "Spanish" influenza strain after WW1.
                  Last edited by WeAreDoomed; 20 June 2021, 08:17 PM. Reason: typo

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                  • Check out this PDF on VAERS and other things. https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth...ta_11APR2021:e

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                    • Originally posted by lyamc View Post
                      if vaccines are really safe, then you don't want to downplay any possible vaccine complications or issues so that people don't suspect covering it up.
                      I think that's what motivated the pause on Johnson & Johnson vaccinations. The problem seemed small, but they didn't want to risk being seen not to take it seriously. So, they paused its authorization while they looked at the issue, even while knowing this could also have some negative impact on public faith in the vaccines.

                      The same story played out in several countries using the AstraZeneca vaccine.

                      Originally posted by lyamc View Post
                      This is what happens when there is no public trust in the media or the government anymore.
                      The lack of public faith in government isn't entirely natural. There are people, corporations, and foreign governments that have sought to undermine public faith in their governments, since the public good runs counter to their interests and government is principally responsible for protecting it.

                      I'm not saying that government is perfect, but better oversight and accountability is the remedy to most of the problems it has, but that's not what the trolls really want.

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