Neraxa good luck with that. People opposing this idea will just belittle it as "socialism", effectively preventing any serious debate on the topic.
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"Pretty strange considering IBM now owns Red Hat..."
Not strange at all. This decision was made by an individual, as are most of the brain-dead decisions made by "managers". Sometimes these things are done at the corporate level (still doesn't make these type decisions "non-brain-dead", however). Read on...
Back in the days when airlines showered travellers with free mileage, Motorola Semiconductor Div. (back in the days there was a Motorola Semiconductor Div.) came out with a pronunciamento, an edict, stating that all those free-travel airline miles, "earned" in the pursuit of service to Motorola (read "business trips") belonged to Motorola, and must be turned over to same, for its use only, and only as it saw fit.
A friend--a Moto sales-force type--dashed off a quick, but politically correct memo to the president of Motorola, stating that he had no problem with this new policy, but as most of his trips were taken after normal business hours (sometimes late-night; sometimes very-early-morning; sometimes all-night, as in California to Boston) so that he was available for business during "normal" hours the following day, he would really like to be compensated for HIS PERSONAL time spent in the pursuit of business for Motorola.
The policy was quietly dropped. VERY quietly.
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The timezone on the commit is UTC-5, which corresponds the Central Daylight Time. Lijun either lives in the midwestern US or midwestern Canada. As far as I can tell, the laws in those regions do permit IBM to make such mandates unless the employee contract says otherwise.
Red Hat's employee contracts explicitly give allowances for this, but I would not be surprised that IBM's do not. That said, supposedly, IBM changed their policy a couple years ago to mirror Red Hat's, but I guess that's not really true...
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Originally posted by KoenDG View PostSo they're basically saying "Activities done during non-working hours are actually working hours".
Am I reading that right"?Last edited by L_A_G; 20 April 2021, 07:56 AM.
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Originally posted by numacross View Post
That depends on the country you're being employed in. In my country it's limited to 8h a day and 40h/week (5 working days) with anything over that being paid overtime. I'm simplifying of course, but it is limited.
IBM germany is also not so nice concerning their management culture (I have heard that of a retiered employee - just his experience but I dont have any other input).
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
The gentle conservative american citizen is considering this as "socialist country" ...but in fact its just human.
IBM germany is also not so nice concerning their management culture (I have heard that of a retiered employee - just his experience but I dont have any other input).
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In Ontario, the labour laws very much make anything an employee produces the property of the employer. This comes from the emploees duty of loyalty to the employer. Even pre-existing work, if the employee takes related employment, could become the employer's property.
For these and many other reasons, tech professionals should not work in employment relationships in Ontario unless for a govt or if they have a union to competently bargain for them.
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Rich company owners financing conservatives. Of course it is not in their interesst because it means people are no modern slaves anymore.
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Originally posted by Jabberwocky View PostLets hope it's just a manager over reacting. It would be easy to see if this is a global IBM policy.
The "100% time IBM employee" may stand because there are no 9-5 contracts, but you only have my ass for that interval. Then again, there never was a shortage of idiot managers, was it?
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