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  • johnny
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    Originally posted by Volta View Post

    Your skull is the thickest one BLM no brainer. It's a shame for Debian to have such moron as a leader.
    You're still super mad that you lost. You can't deny that you lost. So you can say whatever you want about me, but nothing changes that you lost.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    Debian, Black Lives Matter.

    SJW has triumphed. This SJ crap has infiltrated even the minds of previously sane people. What a sad day.

    Speaking of real Debian problems:

    What about a horrible bug tracker which is nothing more than a gloried mailing list?
    What about stale/outdated packages (I know the policy but Debian has literally thousands of packages with minor updates missing)?
    What about patches which take forever to be incorporated?

    A BLV statement. Is this a joke?
    I agree completely.

    Who in the heck has brought such a dumb decision to the table?!
    Why is "lack of diversity" a problem?! Why can't they focus on the **real** problems first, like the lack of stability and attractiveness?

    Honestly you should make this a petition (considering you have almost 50 likes), because it is beginning to ruin once-great projects.

    Can we go back to work?

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  • Volta
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    Originally posted by johnny View Post
    I'm really enjoying drinking all these tears. Anybody else? There's nothing else to argue, because not a single one of you can get it through your thick skulls. The battle is over, and all you do nothings lost.
    Your skull is the thickest one BLM no brainer. It's a shame for Debian to have such moron as a leader.

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  • heredoc
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    Originally posted by direx View Post
    [...]What if I don't want my email address to be displayed publicly (what about privacy)?[...]
    For that reason I always use launchpad to report bugs against debian packages.
    As a long time user I never got used to use e-mails for bug-reports and ditched reportbug all along.

    I'd really like some kind of gitlab, where i could fix typos for me recent bug-reports or edit comments i made for extra info.
    I think Debian is missing 75% of its users bug-solving power.

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  • SilverFox
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    Originally posted by ed31337 View Post

    I tore open one of those to do the same, but my LCD was too old and low res to make it worth while. Plus, there is no easy way to interface the laptop's keyboard to the RPi as far as I know. In the end, I just have a heap of old laptop innards laying around that I probably ought to just throw away...

    What turned out to be better, in my opinion, was getting an old HDMI TV and mounting the RPi4 to the back of that. A TV works better than a computer LCD because the TV will give you a free digital audio output over HDMI, whereas a computer LCD usually lacks audio entirely.

    I screwed two wooden sticks to the back of my TV using the VESA mounting screw holes. Then I screwed down some heavy gauge copper wires bent as hooks to hold my Raspberry Pi 4 very solidly between the two wooden sticks. This gives penty of room for airflow and easy access to the Raspberry Pi's plethora of connectors. I even managed to shape the wood to let me press fit a USB hard drive and an old power supply fan. From the front, you can't even tell anything DIY is going on back there.

    Sure, it's perhaps not as portable and sleek as a laptop. But it is far more accessible for future tinkering with the GPIO pins, etc.


    Never would of thought of utilising the vesa mount, Thank you for the tip. Your right about the keyboard, was thinking though of making my own with low profile mech switches going to usb. The laptop is about 13 years old so there’s loads of room in there.

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  • mdedetrich
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    Originally posted by 9Strike View Post
    ​​I think Debian does an amazing job in delivering a free OS and pushing good programming practices (instead of just blindly taking what's out there).
    This has massively backfired because in a lot of cases Debian has incorrectly backported patches for programming environments (i.e. VM's) causing bugs specific to their system. i.e. with JVM (java virtual machine) debian created bugs in their LTS release of JVM because they incorrectly applied patches and iirc this was also pushed up to ubuntu since debian uses ubuntu.

    Its not possible to know the best practices for every programming language/project out there.

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  • Jormungandr
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    I'm not sure it's possible to say that GNU/Linux is completely apolitical--the concept of free/libre/open-source software is inherently political in many countries where copyright legislation comes from the government. Though, yes, focusing on an amero-centric political stance doesn't fit the overall goal of worldwide inclusivity.

    To the broader point and many of the comments here, it's hard to tell what the focus is. Is the goal to attract new users to Debian or to satisfy their existing base? With the array of distros, and my desire to run new code, my personal machine is Arch. With a distro like Debian, it seems like you'd have to pick one or the other and do it well--their persona is where it was 15-20 years ago when I started tinkering with Linux.

    At one point before git was ubiquitous and I had dialup, I needed reliable packages on the installation media. Nowadays the upstream/downstream repackaging method just means I'm running old code with minimal recourse outside of backporting (which seems like far more effort and prone to issues)

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by creoflux View Post
    The idea that people are rushing to Debian project to get their take on a issue not related to their software is a little bit odd. I somewhat cringe at the idea that they formulate positions on these things. The world is a lot larger than the US and ignoring any issue would open you to criticism.

    Did they release a statement about wildfires in Australia? What about their position on Uyghurs in China? Women's rights in Saudi? Boko Haram? AfCFTA?
    Of-course..
    Only a person so disassociated from reality could ask Debian to issue a statement about some factor other than Software..
    For what it seems this people exists,
    And when they are Leading a Social Software project, that could indeed explain why that project is not so well after all..you don't need to look further..

    About the claim of Debian using old kernels.. Debian should use the best option, and frankly speaking, recent kernels are a mess, so I do recognize that Debian think in a more conservative way in that regard, you shouldn't just get newer kernels just because ..they are just newer..

    On the other side, there are plenty of new features coming in recent kernels, but you have the testing repo for that, of even sid..
    Last edited by tuxd3v; 04 September 2020, 11:51 PM.

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  • ed31337
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    Originally posted by SilverFox View Post
    How did it go on the pi4? Thinking of getting one to stick in an old thinkpad shell.
    I tore open one of those to do the same, but my LCD was too old and low res to make it worth while. Plus, there is no easy way to interface the laptop's keyboard to the RPi as far as I know. In the end, I just have a heap of old laptop innards laying around that I probably ought to just throw away...

    What turned out to be better, in my opinion, was getting an old HDMI TV and mounting the RPi4 to the back of that. A TV works better than a computer LCD because the TV will give you a free digital audio output over HDMI, whereas a computer LCD usually lacks audio entirely.

    I screwed two wooden sticks to the back of my TV using the VESA mounting screw holes. Then I screwed down some heavy gauge copper wires bent as hooks to hold my Raspberry Pi 4 very solidly between the two wooden sticks. This gives penty of room for airflow and easy access to the Raspberry Pi's plethora of connectors. I even managed to shape the wood to let me press fit a USB hard drive and an old power supply fan. From the front, you can't even tell anything DIY is going on back there.

    Sure, it's perhaps not as portable and sleek as a laptop. But it is far more accessible for future tinkering with the GPIO pins, etc.
    Last edited by ed31337; 04 September 2020, 11:04 PM.

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  • DMJC
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    TBH I don't really feel like Debian needs improving at all. It works and is quite reliable. If anything I just want packages to move through the release pipeline faster. Politics is easy to ignore, it's not like the distro is ramming politics down your throat at install time. Most of the technical
    issues are with upstream not Debian.

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