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  • Nille_kungen
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    Like it used to be before the no linux certification crap.

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  • leech
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    Originally posted by ONLYDOWNDOGS View Post
    Does this mean potential hardware support for older models? Really isn't necessary, but it would be nice if the thumbprint reader on my T470 worked.
    That's the only thing that currently doesn't work on my P51. Which by the way I did not have to buy with a Windows license. Granted I didn't have it pre-installed with anything. But RHEL works well on it, as does Pop_OS 20.04 which is what I'm using now. It has a very nice setup for switching between Descrete, Hybrid and Intel GPU setup.
    Also, it absolutely amazes me how far Linux has come. It now will prompt you if you have firmware updates for quite a few systems (works great with the Thinkpads!) and it even told me that my Logitech Unifying Device dongle had a firmware update! Anyone who has used Linux for a long time, knows about how painful firmware updates used to be!

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by illwieckz View Post
    Are you living in the 1985-2005 era?
    what you expect from someone thinking novideo has faster compute?

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  • edwaleni
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    Originally posted by ThoreauHD View Post
    The timing of this is suspect. This has less to do with customers, and more to do with them surviving if the DOJ turns their ChiCom spying inventory into paper weights. Lenovo has been off US government PO lists for years now.
    Lenovo isn't moving manufacturing to the US, so I am not sure how an announcement on Linux support is going to change some behavior or perspective.

    Linux is still a small percentage of their sales workstation market, any USG mandates would simply torpedo the Windows platforms, so they would shut down the Linux ones right behind it.

    Someone else on here was espousing some conspiracy around Fedora as an option due to the RH/IBM merger, when in fact Lenovo had been working with Fedora Team for a long time before the RH merger was even announced. Not sure where people are coming up with these theories.

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  • ThoreauHD
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    The timing of this is suspect. This has less to do with customers, and more to do with them surviving if the DOJ turns their ChiCom spying inventory into paper weights. Lenovo has been off US government PO lists for years now.

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    Originally posted by sarmad View Post
    We will certify our laptops for Linux, but when you buy one of those laptops to run Linux on it you still have to pay us for the Windows license. Also, we won't tell you on our website which of those is certified, you'll have to dig the world wide web for that info.

    No thanks, I'll stick to original Linux vendors like System76, Purism, StarLabs, Slimbook, Tuxedo, etc.
    The bad aspect of these "Linux" brands is, that they use clevo, which doesn't come anywhere near build quality to Lenovo/Dell/HP/... with same specs and same retail price. Clevo resellers price these machines at too high prices, it's just not worth it. And, so far, none Clevo machine provides spill resistant keyboard.

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  • bogdanbiv
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    Originally posted by StarterX4 View Post
    Why not IdeaPad line too?
    Because all system hardware + software compatibility costs money, people and infrastructure (regression test against Linux). It requires hiring manual testers with some experience in Linux and testing software and it requires test automation engineers to write tests that perform automated checks. Also, if a something such as a driver is not working in Linux this incurs delays in launching the product => losing money.

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  • edwaleni
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    I spoke with the Lenovo Team at CES 2020 in Las Vegas.

    I asked all the same questions everyone here does, so here it goes:

    1. Coreboot: Status = No. No value proposition for them. When someone (like a vertical or integrator) can make a case, they will look then.
    2. AMD CPU's in the ThinkStation line: Status=Possible. Threadripper is being evaluated for workstation use. What changed the perspective? Zen 2. Why? Most of the verticals and integrators of ThinkStation ( where the growth is) specify Intel for the IPC. Epyc: Status =No. No one can make a biz case for it in workstation. Won't happen. Ryzen in ThinkStation line=No. Not being considered. Ryzen is a consumer CPU.
    3. Why just P series? Because that is where many of our verticals and integrators will use Linux. This is our portable workstation line.
    4. Why not IdeaPad? Lenovo Product engineer told me point blank that IdeaPad's are Windows/Consumer devices by design and will always be. If Linux works, great he said. They make no effort to regression test against Linux.

    Lenovo's workstation business has grown several fold in the last few years. Most of these people are US based and some used to work in HP's workstation group and are not aligned under consumer. They are hungry, adept and know how to look under every rock to find new niches to exploit. But they don't embrace religion, they embrace margins. They are finding more margins in the workstation space with Linux than they have in the past and they are prepping themselves to exploit it more fully.

    While the libre and BLOB adverse may not see much progress here, it is a good foundation by which they can look at future markets where they exist. The more PR they can raise around Linux desktop use, the more options that will become available.

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  • holunder
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    Originally posted by zexelon View Post
    Nice! This is awesome news, I am big fan of Lenovo laptops especially. I also dont mind if they ship with Nvidia, I think they are bricks of performance gold... though its mostly because of GPU Compute.... if I was only gaming ATI would be carefully evaluated in my analysis.
    ATI? Did you live under a rock for the past 14 years?

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  • woprandi
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    Ubuntu & Red Hat are already available to order for the P series. I'd prefer the T and X series with only Intel chipset and much ligher

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