Linus Torvalds Switches To AMD Ryzen Threadripper After 15 Years Of Intel Systems

[duby229]

More cores -> more jobs -> more RAM.

A 64-thread machine with just 16 GB of RAM will probably be something of a swapfest, assuming you're ever actually using most of the cores.

At least as far as building a Gentoo system goes, I've found that 2gigs per core seems to be the sweet spot.

[noangel]

douche, 10900K gives more FPS in CS GO than any Threadripper from Lisa

[AmericanLocomotive]

Threadripper is a great platform. It's neat that Linus is using it. It does have one major issue at the moment: No RDIMM/LRDIMM support. That basically means most Threadripper systems are limited to 256GB of memory capacity. Enough for just about any purpose, but there are quite a few HEDT applications that require more ram. People with heavy rendering loads typically can make use of 512GB or even 1TB of RAM.

The TR CPU is physically capable of supporting it, but they artificially limit it to stop it from encroaching on Epyc territory.

[t.s.]

If I ever buy new CPU in the near future, I would go with renoir (ryzen 4000G).
A leak: https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1428...h9H_2RFD-eales

LEAK!	Cores / Threads	Base Clock	Turbo Clock	TDP	Graphics Cores
Ryzen 7 4700G	8C/16T	3.6 GHz	4.4 GHz	65W	8
Ryzen 7 PRO 4700G	8C/16T	3.6 GHz	4.4 GHz	65W	8
Ryzen 7 4700GE	8C/16T	3.1 GHz	4.3 GHz	35W	8
Ryzen 5 PRO 4400G	6C/12T	3.7 GHz	4.3 GHz	65W	7
Ryzen 5 4400GE	6C/12T	3.3 GHz	4.2 GHz	35W	7
Ryzen 3 PRO 4200G	4C/8T	3.8 GHz	4.1 GHz	65W	6
Ryzen 3 4200GE	4C/8T	3.5 GHz	4.1 GHz	35W	6

[TemplarGR]

If I ever buy new CPU in the near future, I would go with renoir (ryzen 4000G).
A leak: https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/1428...h9H_2RFD-eales

LEAK!	Cores / Threads	Base Clock	Turbo Clock	TDP	Graphics Cores
Ryzen 7 4700G	8C/16T	3.6 GHz	4.4 GHz	65W	8
Ryzen 7 PRO 4700G	8C/16T	3.6 GHz	4.4 GHz	65W	8
Ryzen 7 4700GE	8C/16T	3.1 GHz	4.3 GHz	35W	8
Ryzen 5 PRO 4400G	6C/12T	3.7 GHz	4.3 GHz	65W	7
Ryzen 5 4400GE	6C/12T	3.3 GHz	4.2 GHz	35W	7
Ryzen 3 PRO 4200G	4C/8T	3.8 GHz	4.1 GHz	65W	6
Ryzen 3 4200GE	4C/8T	3.5 GHz	4.1 GHz	35W	6

AMD has lost their minds if this leak is true. This means they just copied Intel on every single thing and just compete on price. So now the G parts just have a weak igpu just for the UI and pixel art gaming, just like Intel was doing all along. What is the point of getting an 8core with such a weak igpu? Boring, trash product, only a tiny niche might be interested in it.

[sandy8925]

Just write more bloated code, anything for the coffee!

Add some sleep calls here and there. Problem solved!

Also doubles as future "performance optimization"

[sandy8925]

Please someone get him a Navi gpu.

Hey! R9 390 first.

I've been waiting 5 years along with other 390 owners.

[torsionbar28]

Threadripper is a great platform. It's neat that Linus is using it. It does have one major issue at the moment: No RDIMM/LRDIMM support. That basically means most Threadripper systems are limited to 256GB of memory capacity. Enough for just about any purpose, but there are quite a few HEDT applications that require more ram. People with heavy rendering loads typically can make use of 512GB or even 1TB of RAM.

The TR CPU is physically capable of supporting it, but they artificially limit it to stop it from encroaching on Epyc territory.

If it's a "major issue", you're using the wrong tool for the job. TR memory interface is only quad channel, while EPYC is eight channel. If you are in need of >256 GB, you would be better served with EPYC's 8 channels. Also, if you're in need of >256 GB, that's more "workstation" than "HEDT" market segment anyways, and the price difference between TR and EPYC is negligible at that point. There are a number of standard ATX sized single-socket EPYC boards out there, from which to build a workstation from. Contrast with Intel, where many Xeon chips are hobbled with a 32 GB max, and it becomes even harder to justify 256 GB limit as a "major issue".

[torsionbar28]

What is the point of getting an 8core with such a weak igpu?

It's for doing work. You don't need a mega GPU for Outlook and Word. Or for coding and compiling. Or for managing cloud services and general IT administration. Or for financial work with Quicken and Excel. Or for web browsing and video conferencing. In fact, almost nothing requires a strong GPU outside of 3D games. And if you're a l33t gam3r on a budget, the 8 Vega cores will handle most games at 1080p and low detail settings, and certainly be faster than any competing iGPU from Intel. The 8 Vega cores also work quite well at video transcoding under Linux, using VAAPI.

Boring, trash product, only a tiny niche might be interested in it.

According to whom? This sounds like it fits the broadest possible market, and brings the powerful Zen2 cores to the APU segment. With both a faster CPU, and faster GPU than the Intel competition, I'm not sure you can justify your opinion.

[TemplarGR]

It's for doing work. You don't need a mega GPU for Outlook and Word. Or for coding and compiling. Or for managing cloud services and general IT administration. Or for financial work with Quicken and Excel. Or for web browsing and video conferencing. In fact, almost nothing requires a strong GPU outside of 3D games.


According to whom? This sounds like it fits the broadest possible market. Except maybe one. The l33t gam3rz on a minimum wage budget building an iGPU gaming rig. That sounds like a niche market if I ever heard one. And it's still faster than Intel's iGPU, so your point is lost here as well.

1) The point is, 8 core ryzen cpus already exist, also tiny dgpus for those who just need a basic output already exist. Why introduce this product?

2) This product fits no niche at all. People can already buy 8 cores ryzens today, IIRC with better clocks and obviously cheaper. And they get the benefit of picking whatever cheap dgpu they fancy to pair with it. And they don't need a specific mobo with graphical outputs.