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  • #21
    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    ZFS can be used on Linux
    I don't see Poettering adding support for a non-native Linux filesystem unless someone else does it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      Why not both?
      I see hard time for my brother and father to just simply understand what should be the purpose. While I see a mechanism to handle users and encryption for a lot of stuff on server side. However sometime it is better left some things as them are. I hope this will not be default choice selection for each distro out there but just a feature for whom need it.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Britoid View Post
        I don't see Poettering adding support for a non-native Linux filesystem unless someone else does it.
        Me neither, and I strongly suspect that they would also complain about the "non-nativeness" of ZFS if someone tried to contribute that, but this does not make pal666's answer any less wrong.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by pal666 View Post
          i don't see much difference between giving usb driver with keyfile and giving password
          Really!? Even Ray Charles can see the difference.

          A USB drive is something you can hand to anyone to use to boot up your system to a non-root user desktop and they can reboot countless times without being able to gain root access...I'm assuming using password protected GRUB so GRUB's settings can't be tweaked on boot. It is also very convenient if you install a lot of kernels and you don't want to type, in my case, 3 passwords just to decrypt all the volumes to get to the desktop and 2 more passwords to access storage volumes...boot, root, home, storage 1, storage 2.

          If it weren't for keys and auto-login for my desktop I'd go insane because 6 passwords every boot gets old fast.

          When using just passwords, anytime anyone needs to reboot they'd have to nag you to unlock anything that needs unlocking.

          And I'm obviously assuming the average and below average users here since we're talking about physical access to the machine and how geeks can normally do whatever with physical access.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            Me neither, and I strongly suspect that they would also complain about the "non-nativeness" of ZFS if someone tried to contribute that, but this does not make pal666's answer any less wrong.
            Most likely they'd complain about the CDDL-ness of it and use that as the reason to not add ZFS support. It's what other projects tend to do.

            But what all of y'all are saying is what I thought.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Danielsan View Post
              I see hard time for my brother and father to just simply understand what should be the purpose.
              Oh that's easy.

              Shared PCs with multiple users that are all administrators/root/wheel/fully privileged users so they can all install stuff or change important settings but can also see each other's home folders (which is something that is not an issue on enterprise environment as no user is an administrator).

              Would your brother want to risk to have other people in his family look at his (purely hypotetical) collection of midget bdsm scat porn? Probably not.

              Same as your father's (also hypothetical) "important work documents" or something.

              I hope this will not be default choice selection for each distro out there but just a feature for whom need it.
              Even if it is default, nothing changes. Unless you are a Peeping Tom.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
                Most likely they'd complain about the CDDL-ness of it and use that as the reason to not add ZFS support. It's what other projects tend to do.
                That's the right punishment for you, dirty mischievous ZFS users. Repent now and embrace btrfs... or something.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                  Oh that's easy.

                  Shared PCs with multiple users that are all administrators/root/wheel/fully privileged users so they can all install stuff or change important settings but can also see each other's home folders (which is something that is not an issue on enterprise environment as no user is an administrator).

                  Would your brother want to risk to have other people in his family look at his (purely hypotetical) collection of midget bdsm scat porn? Probably not.

                  Same as your father's (also hypothetical) "important work documents" or something.

                  Even if it is default, nothing changes. Unless you are a Peeping Tom.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                    For sure, I've always thought encryption is too much hassle under Linux for non-technical users, which isn't right because non-technical users need that privacy too, this could go some way of solving that.
                    I agree. Such technical matters need to be shielded from the non-technical user ... like Windows and macOS

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                    • #30
                      Gone are the days of "tar it up, copy it over, untar it"

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