Red Hat vs. SUSE vs. Canonical Contributions To The Mainline Linux Kernel Over The 2010s

[pal666]

Why GNOME ? (and not KDE)
GNOME is not at all a fundamental part of a GNU/Linux system. AFAIK, GNOME is used by a minority of desktop systems, and not at all by server systems.

gnome is used by me, that's enough

[pal666]

Xgl - Killed by RedHat (AIGLX literally does the same thing and was total NIH)
Upstart - Killed by RedHat
Unity - Killed by RedHat
MIR - Killed by Redhat
AppArmor - ...
snap - ...

if redhat can kill your project by developing their own project, your project was good only compared to nothing

[k1e0x]

if redhat can kill your project by developing their own project, your project was good only compared to nothing

Pretty tough statement to quantify considering the quality of RedHat (IBM)'s code.

The bigger you get the worse your product? Lets ask Microsoft.

"Hi, we are RedHat, we make an OS that breaks on update so badly it's been known not to upgrade major releases on it for the past 20 years.. Fix it? Nah.. not our problem. We are too busy killing our competitors to make anything *good* lol"

[Duve]

You forgot Bazaar, Xsplash, Usplash, Launchpad, Ubuntu Software Center, Ubuntu One and the best for last, Ubuntu Edge.

The problem being that in the case of alot of them, the community either doesn't support that component or has for a moment and moved on.
It's kind of the issue with Ubuntu (more so with Canonical) that what they do only really is in support for themselves and while that is not wrong, it's leaves them with little impact with the community at large if only because of the few things that they do with the community at large in mind.

[Britoid]

The problem being that in the case of alot of them, the community either doesn't support that component or has for a moment and moved on.
It's kind of the issue with Ubuntu (more so with Canonical) that what they do only really is in support for themselves and while that is not wrong, it's leaves them with little impact with the community at large if only because of the few things that they do with the community at large in mind.

It would help if Canonical learned a lesson and stopped publishing things under licenses which make it much harder for another distro to work and rely on it. Red Hat can't rely on something like Upstart if a competitor can ship proprietary versions which include patches they don't have access to.

Although systemd's design is superior to Upstart (dependency based vs event based), no one can ship proprietary versions of it, not even Red Hat or Poettering.

Oh and stop the vendor-lock in snap bullshit. What a way to spit in peoples faces.

[bregma]

... that Canonical has never made great community contributions is known.

It is known, Khaleesi. All the true believers know this.

[Britoid]

Canonical do GREAT stuff on GNOME.

Do you ever shut up about GNOME?

I use GNOME and I like it, but I don't feel the need to talk about it 24/7.

[Bestia]

Canonical developers often use ubuntu.com as the e-mail address.

[Michael]

Canonical developers often use ubuntu.com as the e-mail address.

That's only 120 commits over 10 years.

[Vistaus]

Red Hat employees: 13,400 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat)
Suse employees: 1750 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE)
Canonical employees: ~650 (I work here, but Wikipedia says 443).

Obviously, I'm biased but might be nice to do some of these numbers per employee as well.

Exactly! Red Hat might have more employees, but how many of them are contributing? It's not like Red Hat only has software devs (that have to contribute), they have many other divisions as well.