GNU Project Developers Debate A Restructuring As A "Bottom Up" Organization

[starshipeleven]

In some [spoken] languages some names are masculine while in other language they are the opposite.

Italian, spanish and others, probably all latin-derived languages have this in one way or another.

It may feel strange to know that in some languages "table" is a "male word" and if you follow grammar rules it must be used with male articles and/or pronouns while a "chair" is a female and must be used with female articles and/or pronouns.

THis adds a whole new level of useless complication to the language.

Oh there are also "bi-gender" words too, (aka words that can be used with both articles and pronouns)

[Djhg2000]

Yeah, and RMS is certainly known for keeping politics out of software development.
(Oh, the irony )

Yeah well you know what the fork I meant.

[moilami]

it's far from a fully confirmed misogyny in that post, but feel free to assume a whole slew of things just to confirm your world view.
Not sure what this is even supposed to mean. Someone is a moron, someone said it can very well be overreacting, I also cited my own experience that opensource projects are far from warm and welcoming even without pulling in gender and assumptions on that.

GNU/Hurd people were very welcoming.

[moilami]

Seriously though. EVERY TIME anything something vaguely controversial is brought up on these forums it's always a complete shitshow.
People being extremely hostile to whoever is mentioned in whatever article, and then surprised when you call them out on being obnoxious.
There is not even any new argument brought up. Blah blah SJWs, blah blah witch hunt, blah blah cancer, blah blah it obviously profits Microsoft, blah blah EEE, blah blah RedHat.

All. The. Time.

Ah, I so very much love this place because of that The last fortress of reasonable people in Internet

[Veto]

Yeah well you know what the fork I meant.

Maybe. However, I didn't just refer to RMS' admirable fight for software freedom. From the man himself... https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha.../msg00001.html

The reality is, that software development has grown up and the adolescent boy behavior has to make way for a larger and more diverse community. That realization may not yet have reached all members of the old boys club - including the forum here

[hotaru]

Your lack of writing skills isn't my problem

I had no problem writing, you're the one who had a hard time understanding what was plainly written.

and just so you can be explicit about what you think is excusable, I'll tell you a little more about the one time I contributed to a GNU project. I was 15 years old. a bunch of grown men saw my name and on the email that contained the patch and decided to send me a bunch of pornographic photos of themselves and explicit descriptions of their sexual fantasies. that's the kind of behavior you're saying I'm overreacting to. grown-ass men sexually harassing a 15-year-old girl. that's what the boy's club that has been GNU under RMS's leadership represents to me, and that's what I would love to see change. and it's obvious that won't ever change with RMS running things.

[moilami]

By the way this ain't even remotely hostile. You really don't know how the real nerd rage used be

[moilami]

Finished reading the entire discuss chain from the link. Now...

What I can glimpse from it is RMS and major maintainers should start searching and training their apprentices to reduce the key person risk factors on the GNU projects, reduce reliance on decisions made from FSF, and find a way to ensure that after the current generation leaves, the core principles of GNU project will be unchanging.

Or am I missing something?

No, you are not missing anything. That sounds like a sound plan. Keep it alive.

[Djhg2000]

Maybe. However, I didn't just refer to RMS' admirable fight for software freedom. From the man himself... https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha.../msg00001.html

The reality is, that software development has grown up and the adolescent boy behavior has to make way for a larger and more diverse community. That realization may not yet have reached all members of the old boys club - including the forum here

So somehow defending a pun at the expense of politics (which by the way was kind of funny) is a sign of wanting politics. It's a bit like saying people using the expression "throwing someone under the bus" are being offensive to people who have been in traffic accidents, don't you think?

[fuzz]

it's far from a fully confirmed misogyny in that post, but feel free to assume a whole slew of things just to confirm your world view.
Not sure what this is even supposed to mean. Someone is a moron, someone said it can very well be overreacting, I also cited my own experience that opensource projects are far from warm and welcoming even without pulling in gender and assumptions on that.

There was a news article about a white woman who transitioned to a male and tried to become an officer of their college diversity board.

The people in the university then tried to get rid of them, saying they were unfit to be an officer of said diversity board because they were a white male.

These fuckers are eating themselves alive, and it's hilarious.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/...white-man-now/