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GNU Project Developers Debate A Restructuring As A "Bottom Up" Organization

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  • Djhg2000
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    RMS should just tell these people to fork off. We neither want nor need politics in software development.

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  • onicsis
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    ThEiR GenDeR
    In some [spoken] languages some names are masculine while in other language they are the opposite.

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  • Lecedy
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    Finished reading the entire discuss chain from the link. Now...

    What I can glimpse from it is RMS and major maintainers should start searching and training their apprentices to reduce the key person risk factors on the GNU projects, reduce reliance on decisions made from FSF, and find a way to ensure that after the current generation leaves, the core principles of GNU project will be unchanging.

    Or am I missing something?

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  • starshipeleven
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    unapproved post for AsuMagic above

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by AsuMagic View Post
    You all love to bring in SJWs everywhere and have to bring up cringy "DiD YoU JuST aSsUMe ThEiR GenDeR LoL?".
    Same shit on every thread.
    Hey it's not my fault if most of their arguments fall apart by just pointing out that same thing over and over.

    Sexism

    It's not even related.
    You need to understand the basic concept I told you already above. The thread (any thread) is only vaguely related to the news piece and the people are more bickering among themselves than about the news.

    And yes, if I see someone that claims "As a man, you don't get to decide what counts and what doesn't." I'm going to react because that's sexist as shit so they need to get down from their white horse.

    All. The. Time.
    That's how humans actually work, the internet only makes this more obvious as it gives a sense of anonimity and so on.
    People working in retail can confirm.

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  • hotaru
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    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    Not sure what this is even supposed to mean.
    your lack of reading comprehension skills isn't my problem.

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by hotaru View Post
    no, his misogyny clearly revealed his gender.
    it's far from a fully confirmed misogyny in that post, but feel free to assume a whole slew of things just to confirm your world view.
    the reaction to my post here makes it very obvious that I wasn't just overreacting or misunderstanding. there was even a (now deleted?) ridiculous James-Damore-style "women can't code" rant.
    Not sure what this is even supposed to mean. Someone is a moron, someone said it can very well be overreacting, I also cited my own experience that opensource projects are far from warm and welcoming even without pulling in gender and assumptions on that.

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  • xorbe
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    I just don't think bottoms-up would work for projects like Linux or GNU. It will turn into a deadlock of differing opinions.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by archibald View Post

    GNU is an explicitly political organisation, and was founded as such - on gnu.org they have a 'take action' section with (at the time of writing) the current goals:
    • Support the efforts on net neutrality in the USA, and in your home country.
    • Defend privacy, and support global copyright reform
    • Support current FSF campaigns.
    • Fight against software patents: worldwide, and in Europe.
    All of these are political, rather than code-related in their nature. There's more to software, and particularly open source software, than what's in the repository.
    At least many of these are good and valid points, unlike today's horrible political trends ("social justice", acceptance of LGBT+, acceptance of overweight, etc.)

    (Only partially related: my country has a misandric supermarket which strongly favors women (regardless of experience!) (despite them being the majority when it comes to shopping, according to my parents), and since then the cashiers only got slower and the queues take so much longer. It's getting on my nerves!)
    Last edited by tildearrow; 10-23-2019, 05:23 PM.

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  • hotaru
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    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    "as a man"?

    Are you assuming his gender?
    no, his misogyny clearly revealed his gender.

    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    Are you also assuming that someone regardless of gender can't just point out that maybe she was just overreacting or misunderstanding?
    the reaction to my post here makes it very obvious that I wasn't just overreacting or misunderstanding. there was even a (now deleted?) ridiculous James-Damore-style "women can't code" rant.

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