GNU Project Developers Debate A Restructuring As A "Bottom Up" Organization

[moilami]

By the way this ain't even remotely hostile. You really don't know how the real nerd rage used be

[hotaru]

Your lack of writing skills isn't my problem

I had no problem writing, you're the one who had a hard time understanding what was plainly written.

and just so you can be explicit about what you think is excusable, I'll tell you a little more about the one time I contributed to a GNU project. I was 15 years old. a bunch of grown men saw my name and on the email that contained the patch and decided to send me a bunch of pornographic photos of themselves and explicit descriptions of their sexual fantasies. that's the kind of behavior you're saying I'm overreacting to. grown-ass men sexually harassing a 15-year-old girl. that's what the boy's club that has been GNU under RMS's leadership represents to me, and that's what I would love to see change. and it's obvious that won't ever change with RMS running things.

[Veto]

Yeah well you know what the fork I meant.

Maybe. However, I didn't just refer to RMS' admirable fight for software freedom. From the man himself... https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha.../msg00001.html

The reality is, that software development has grown up and the adolescent boy behavior has to make way for a larger and more diverse community. That realization may not yet have reached all members of the old boys club - including the forum here

[moilami]

Seriously though. EVERY TIME anything something vaguely controversial is brought up on these forums it's always a complete shitshow.
People being extremely hostile to whoever is mentioned in whatever article, and then surprised when you call them out on being obnoxious.
There is not even any new argument brought up. Blah blah SJWs, blah blah witch hunt, blah blah cancer, blah blah it obviously profits Microsoft, blah blah EEE, blah blah RedHat.

All. The. Time.

Ah, I so very much love this place because of that The last fortress of reasonable people in Internet

[moilami]

it's far from a fully confirmed misogyny in that post, but feel free to assume a whole slew of things just to confirm your world view.
Not sure what this is even supposed to mean. Someone is a moron, someone said it can very well be overreacting, I also cited my own experience that opensource projects are far from warm and welcoming even without pulling in gender and assumptions on that.

GNU/Hurd people were very welcoming.

[Djhg2000]

Yeah, and RMS is certainly known for keeping politics out of software development.
(Oh, the irony )

Yeah well you know what the fork I meant.

[starshipeleven]

In some [spoken] languages some names are masculine while in other language they are the opposite.

Italian, spanish and others, probably all latin-derived languages have this in one way or another.

It may feel strange to know that in some languages "table" is a "male word" and if you follow grammar rules it must be used with male articles and/or pronouns while a "chair" is a female and must be used with female articles and/or pronouns.

THis adds a whole new level of useless complication to the language.

Oh there are also "bi-gender" words too, (aka words that can be used with both articles and pronouns)

[starshipeleven]

your lack of reading comprehension skills isn't my problem.

Your lack of writing skills isn't my problem

[archibald]

At least many of these are good and valid points, unlike today's horrible political trends ("social justice", acceptance of LGBT+, acceptance of overweight, etc.)

That's my point - it's not a problem of politics in code - nobody here seems to have a problem with that principle. The complaint about politics having no place in code only appears when the poster disagrees with those politics. Even the selection of a licence for a software project involves a certain amount of politics.

A call to remove politics from code can sound like a reasonable proposition - after all, code is bits and bytes, not human, so let's focus on fixing bugs and making things faster! - but is usually used as a respectable-sounding way to drown out or suppress the politics that are being disagreed with, without doing so explicitly.

[Veto]

Yeah, and RMS is certainly known for keeping politics out of software development.
(Oh, the irony )