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  • #51
    Originally posted by usta View Post

    Hmm to completely stop development of MIR and give that manpower to wayland ? or stop development of bazaar and give that manpower to git development ?
    wow.. you seems to be a destructive person..
    So much hate..

    You should bear in mind that Mir, is a lower overhead, than Wayland..it was really nice for mobile devices..
    Last edited by tuxd3v; 10-17-2019, 10:44 AM. Reason: complement

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post
      Here's a good read for anyone still doubting the benefits Ubuntu's "lowlatency" kernel has:

      https://forums.unraid.net/topic/4637...l-performance/

      Some interesting quotes:
      That's essentially why I, a Manjaro user, compile my kernels from Tk-Glitch's sources. I'll take a "lower performing" low-latency kernel over a "higher performing" regular kernel any day of the week since I care about how well my desktop responds overall more than I care about how well a single process runs and benchmarks...or stuff I run with "nice --5 to --10" (my system is set up so users have access to up to negative 10 w/o root/sudo with everything defaulting to 0...I need to figure out how to set all of KDE/Plasma to negative 3...)

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      • #53
        Originally posted by airlied View Post

        You have no idea what you taking about, IBM paid cash to each shareholder directly, not IBM shares, Red Hat is a fully owned IBM entity, there are no Red Hat shareholders except IBM now. That is how stocks work.
        Exactly, came here to write the very same thing when I say that post by msotirov where he claimed that RHT was still a publicly traded company, the share was delisted at 2019-07-09 from NYSE when IBM announced that they had bought 100% of the shares for $190.00 per share.

        Company buy-outs don't settle at 50-51%, unless they reach at least 90-98% of the outstanding stock such offers usually default.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Anvil View Post
          Redhat to buy Canonical with the money they got from IBM
          Redhat could buy Canonical with the money they could find between their seat cushions.

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          • #55
            Canonical has never made a profit. They are subzidized by a rich guy...

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            • #56
              Originally posted by andyprough View Post
              $99 mil is sweet money for tinkering with Debian's packages and repos and churning out a worse performing distro.

              Oh and coming up with a different shade of orange and purple wallpaper twice a year. Probably $50 mil goes into wallpaper costs alone.
              You forgot about the most expensive thing in all projects out there, the logo.

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              • #57
                I could 'almost' (with a strong drink) imagine Valve Corporation buying them and maybe going an 'app store' and console route. But I seriously doubt there would be enough profit or even a killer feature to pull it off.

                Now it Samsung purchased them both.....

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by NathanG View Post
                  I could 'almost' (with a strong drink) imagine Valve Corporation buying them and maybe going an 'app store' and console route. But I seriously doubt there would be enough profit or even a killer feature to pull it off.

                  Now it Samsung purchased them both.....
                  I'd imagine Valve either buying off, funding, or cloning Manjaro if they wanted to do a serious round 2 with Linux and SteamOS. No other Linux distribution makes sense.

                  At this point in time, however, GhostBSD/FreeBSD would also be a good contender if it had some of that Valve money behind it to get FreeBSD's Wine, Xorg, and Intel & AMD GPU drivers up to par with Linux since FreeBSD really ain't that far behind these days. Corporations seem to prefer MIT/BSD over GPL.

                  I'm assuming Nvidia's BSD driver isn't that far behind the Linux one...haven't had an Nvidia card for 7 years now so that isn't something I keep up with. That's 100% due to AMD just announcing AMDGPU if any AMD representatives come here. It wasn't even available, just the thought of it coming was enough to entice me to switch and I'm damn glad I did.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                    I'd imagine Valve either buying off, funding, or cloning Manjaro if they wanted to do a serious round 2 with Linux and SteamOS. No other Linux distribution makes sense..
                    Cloning Manjaro would make no sense. I don't see a reason for them to move off Debian.

                    It would make sense for some time in the future for SteamOS to be built with OStree though.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                      Cloning Manjaro would make no sense. I don't see a reason for them to move off Debian.

                      It would make sense for some time in the future for SteamOS to be built with OStree though.
                      I was basing that off their recent numbers where Arch/Manjaro are number 2 and 3 used by Steam Linux users (Ubuntu is 1 and LTS is 4 IIRC).

                      The problem with Debian/Ubuntu is release cycles and lots of out-of-date software in their repositories. Reading the Proton bug tracker and ProtonDB, a lot of issues are from people on Ubuntu/LTS and people on Arch/Manjaro are saying "what problems?" simply because we have newer Mesa versions, newer kernels, newer Vulkan libraries, etc that have had the underlying cause of that bug fixed. More bugs reported with actual logs, apitraces, etc seem to from the Arch/Manjaro crowd as well. I've done a couple and I know that a few other Arch/Manjaro Phoronix readers have too.

                      Arch makes no sense as a SteamOS base because they'd have to double up on what Manjaro has already done -- provide ease-of-use and noobiness to Arch.

                      Fedora would make a decent candidate, especially Silverblue, but it still has release cycles and those bring potential out-of-date scenarios.

                      Suse might work but Valve would have to put more work into it than most other mainstream distributions.

                      Based on what I'm seeing, Manjaro makes the most sense -- stable, yet rolling; new user and developer friendly; already a highly used Steam Linux distribution; it can directly piggyback off the Arch Handbook so documentation isn't that lacking; their community is friendly and helpful to new users; their community already posts bugs and is helping to make Proton better...and Manjaro just went Public so they can actually be bought and sold.

                      Manjaro checks off a lot of boxes Valve would want a newer SteamOS to have; and these days for Linux gamers, more boxes than Ubuntu or Debian. Fedora would be the #2 choice and Ubuntu #3. Obviously that's all my opinion...write an opinion or idea and some assholes around here take it like it's scripture and facts and run with it.

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