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  • #31
    Britoid +1

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    • #32
      Originally posted by msotirov
      Not all of them, Red Hat is still a publicly traded company. Technically 51% of shareholders must have sold to IBM for the takeover to be valid.
      You have no idea what you taking about, IBM paid cash to each shareholder directly, not IBM shares, Red Hat is a fully owned IBM entity, there are no Red Hat shareholders except IBM now. That is how stocks work.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Britoid View Post

        What would Red Hat gain from offering different types of kernels?
        How about offering people who care about latency an appropiate kernel?

        You know, gamers, content creators, users who like to scroll websites without constant stutter; basically standard desktop users!

        All things RedHat obviously doesn't care about...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Linuxxx View Post

          How about offering people who care about latency an appropiate kernel?

          You know, gamers, content creators, users who like to scroll websites without constant stutter; basically standard desktop users!

          All things RedHat obviously doesn't care about...
          If that's not possible in the normal kernel then that's a bug that should be fixed, not worked around.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
            jacob or 3. Just nope out of something as unethical as CLA. And that’s how Canonical got shafted during their CLA year.

            Today Canonical are back on track working on neutral upstreams. So it’s really just a matter of standing your ground. Neutral ground.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Britoid View Post

              If that's not possible in the normal kernel then that's a bug that should be fixed, not worked around.
              Scheduler and governor settings, 1000/750/500/250hz timer frequency, etc. There are a lot of kernel dials to turn and tweak and some can only be done at compile time.

              Basically, some things are in the normal kernel and it's on the distribution on whether they provide kernels with the dials turned to desktop and low-latency or if the users have to turn the dials themselves. Manjaro and Ubuntu are pretty good in that regard.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                Scheduler and governor settings, 1000/750/500/250hz timer frequency, etc. There are a lot of kernel dials to turn and tweak and some can only be done at compile time.

                Basically, some things are in the normal kernel and it's on the distribution on whether they provide kernels with the dials turned to desktop and low-latency or if the users have to turn the dials themselves. Manjaro and Ubuntu are pretty good in that regard.
                Right, then they should be done by default then. If a desktop distribution ships with a kernel that breaks browsing the web, playing games etc then that is a bug. Normal users should NOT have to worry about switching kernels or what version of the kernel they have installed, ever, to do normal desktop-y things.

                It's worth noting that Red Hat does have tuned that can tune the current kernel to be low latency, high throughput, power saving etc.

                Providing different kernels makes the user decide or something they shouldn't have to decide upon. You may see it as pro-choice, but it's anti-user.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Britoid View Post

                  Right, then they should be done by default then. If a desktop distribution ships with a kernel that breaks browsing the web, playing games etc then that is a bug. Normal users should NOT have to worry about switching kernels or what version of the kernel they have installed, ever, to do normal desktop-y things.

                  It's worth noting that Red Hat does have tuned that can tune the current kernel to be low latency, high throughput, power saving etc.

                  Providing different kernels makes the user decide or something they shouldn't have to decide upon. You may see it as pro-choice, but it's anti-user.
                  I consider that pro-user. How in the world are the distributions, doesn't matter which one at this point, but how are they supposed to know how we plan on using our systems? Are you using a laptop, high end workstation, 58 processor rack server, 4K gaming grade PC, a Core2Quad desktop off eBay for $100? Exactly. They don't know and each of those systems can require a different kernel with different tuning or the distribution can release one kernel and hope it suits everyone's needs (hint: it doesn't or we wouldn't be having this discussion nor would "noob" distributions provide multiple kernels).

                  Not everyone in the world are people like us. Not everyone can custom roll their own kernels for specific needs.

                  A lot of y'all Phoronix posters seem to forget one thing -- we're smarter than the average bear. The dumbest person at Phoronix is still smarter than 95% of the world in regards to computers and technology.

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                  • #39
                    I am not a fan of Red Hat, nor of Canonical, but I find it curious and perhaps a bit stupid to go against those who contributed heavily to make GNU / Linux usable by all of us. Well Canonical historically has never made great contributions, this is known to all, just look at what Canonical contributes in the Kernel, on the contrary Red Hat (which is not particularly nice to me) is historically known for great contributions to the Gnu / Linux ecosystem. Obviously not only Red Hat, great contributions come from Debian and also from openSUSE. Spitting in the dish where you eat is not a great idea! So as a Gnu / Linux user I would like many more contributions from all, including Canonical.

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                    • #40
                      Charlie68 Post-CLA Canonical employs a lot of desktop developers.

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