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Project Trident Switching From TrueOS/FreeBSD Distribution To Basing On Void Linux

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  • #21
    Among the features attracting them to Void Linux was the Runit init system in place of systemd
    unwarranted bashing of systemd. runit is in place of sysvinit. in other words those evil people are limiting our freedom to choose init system
    making use of musl libc rather than Glibc
    while runit piece has unwarranted addition, this one has notable omission. they've chosen it because they "wanted to avoid being locked into using glibc for our tools". in other words because they have no idea what they are talking about
    Last edited by pal666; 10-15-2019, 04:18 PM.

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    • #22
      Seeing Trident move to Linux was a *big* surprise to me!

      It's been my goal to run FreeBSD as a desktop for a while, but, after I get it installed and set up the way I like, I often run into ports and hardware shortcomings. I purposely purchased an older HP workstation to use with FreeBSD, and it works fairly well, but hardware driver support is quite a bit behind Linux. Also, there are so few people working on FreeBSD compared to Linux. Nearly 80 percent of the packages I install have the annoying "This package has no maintainer..." notice.

      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      FreeBSD is a very poor choice for a desktop, it's not news.
      With the relatively short support cycles, FreeBSD doesn't seem to be much of a server OS either. Also, using FreeBSD to run a server for a customer (experimentally) burned me when the filesystem blew up after an update. Debian and Ubuntu have done a adequate job of replacing FreeBSD on servers I admin.

      It's great that FreeBSD exists, but I can't really blame Trident for moving on.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
        You are seeing too much into that. FreeBSD is a very poor choice for a desktop, it's not news. They just realized it a bit later.
        well, not just for a desktop

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        • #24
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          he has a loaded gun
          More like a brain loaded with paranoid thought that's connecting a couple dots to make whacky conspiracy theories.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
            Its a very nice OS, but with all being said, its "not only roses", there are still some corners cases to iron out, even in 'amd64', some packages missing and such, but I see a great future to this project, at the pace it goes, in 5 to 10 years, Debian should start to be worried about..
            because debian has less manpower, right? i guess nobody is going to be worried about some clueless forum posts

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            • #26
              Originally posted by pal666 View Post
              well, not just for a desktop
              I'll make sure I run all my software choices by you to make sure you approve.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by willbprog177 View Post
                Seeing Trident move to Linux was a *big* surprise to me!

                It's been my goal to run FreeBSD as a desktop for a while, but, after I get it installed and set up the way I like, I often run into ports and hardware shortcomings. I purposely purchased an older HP workstation to use with FreeBSD, and it works fairly well, but hardware driver support is quite a bit behind Linux. Also, there are so few people working on FreeBSD compared to Linux. Nearly 80 percent of the packages I install have the annoying "This package has no maintainer..." notice.



                With the relatively short support cycles, FreeBSD doesn't seem to be much of a server OS either. Also, using FreeBSD to run a server for a customer (experimentally) burned me when the filesystem blew up after an update. Debian and Ubuntu have done a adequate job of replacing FreeBSD on servers I admin.

                It's great that FreeBSD exists, but I can't really blame Trident for moving on.
                A lot of people use FreeBSD successfully on a server, a desktop even. Maybe it's just not for you. No hard feelings.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by pal666 View Post
                  unwarranted bashing of systemd. runit is in place of sysvinit. in other words those evil people are limiting our freedom to choose init system
                  while runit piece has unwarranted addition, this one has notable omission. they've chosen it because they "wanted to avoid being locked into using glibc for our tools". in other words because they have no idea what they are talking about
                  Systemd and Glibc are the only init and libc allowed. We get it.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by vermaden View Post
                    From what I know of FreeBSD desktop/laptop users almost no one used TrueOS or Project Trident as a daily driver. Some used Lumina.
                    Currently GhostBSD and NomadBSD do a lot better work at ready to be used FreeBSD desktop, check them out, then try out Project Trident and You will understand what I mean.
                    You can of course roll your own FreeBSD desktop like me but it takes some time to create:
                    https://vermaden.wordpress.com/freebsd-desktop/
                    What is your beef with them? Whether its here, on reddit, on twitter, or on the FreeBSD forums all you ever do is trash talk TrueOS and Trident. I used to run TrueOS a while back, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as you claim. According to BSD Stats the last time I looked they had over 15,000 users. One of the devs was claiming 18,000 on reddit, but I personally saw what I saw about a year ago. TrueOS only lists around 8,000 right now, but Trident isnt listed so maybe the rest of their users are using that and not getting reported anymore.
                    All you ever do is trash talk the project and pimp your own desktop blog posts. I think your desktop looks like shit, but i dont go around multiple sites telling everyone to avoid your guides. There's no reason to talk shit about a project that's doing something that you arent.

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                    • #30
                      I think this is really exciting, Void has been my preferred distro in situations where I have time to do an "arch style" install and setup for some time. So I really like the idea of being able to use something based on it as my "just works" distro as well.

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