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Originally posted by xfcemint View PostI find this amusing:
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Any sociologists out there? Is there a name for this?
Anyway, I'm quite interested, and will be exploring this phenomena.
In this particular case, the core issue is that all these people are clueless when it comes to programming and they think that old-ish x32 programs from the age of the x32 dinosaurs can be refactored and recompiled into modern x64 state-of-the-art Apps (please note that the capital 'A' in an 'App' is a necessary ingredient to achieve binary greatness in 2019) all within the blink of an eye, if only the developers stop being lazy snowflakes and start doing their jobs like real men. Notions like "source code lost or damaged", "dependence on incompatible libraries", "specific architecture hacks that cannot be converted", "license hell preventing source code manipulation" etc have no meaning to them, because as already mentioned they lack the knowledge to properly understand them.
If you need more info on this malady, please don't hesitate to ask your dear friend debianxfce, he's a real specialist on the matter. Although I'm afraid he's inevitably going to try and convince you that in order to achieve proper x64 greatness, one has to use Debian XFCE as a desktop environment to compile the new x64 binaries, because compilers generally work more reliably in XFCE as it hasn't as of yet been sabotaged by the IBM employees working at Red Hat.
Be prepared for a fierce debate.
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Originally posted by F.Ultra View Post
Having the rules written down minimizes the risk of abuse because then you have something to base a defence against, which is something that is 100% impossible with unwritten rules.
If I ban you due to "section X" then you can mount a defence on why what you did, wrote or said does not break the rules of "section X". Now compare this with unwritten rules, there I just ban you and for whatever counterargument you might trow in my way I can always move the goalposts since there are no written rules to check.
The "plenty of stories floating around" are mostly from when the people accused have not bothered to refute the claims and sometimes from people trying to justify why they left without telling the real story so they blame it on HR.
So far in known history no totalitarian state have ever came from "people trying to be nice to each other" propagating throughout society, in fact it have as of yet always been the contrary. Having written codes of conduct is not implementing newspeak, people claiming that should try to actually read 1984 (it is a very good book).
Suppose you get banned from some project. Now you have two options; fork or work your way back in using the rules.- If you fork, you can go on being who you are and if your code is good some follow you from the original code base. Depending on how things work out you'll either end up with the more active branch, the dead branch or getting merged back in after settling your differences.
- If you work your way back in using the rules you'll be that annoying person that they can't get rid of and the project isn't really fun anymore. Other people know that if it comes to it you will throw the rule book at them and likely come out on top.
At least in my culture, calling to rules and authority to solve your problems is considered the nuclear option and if you can't work out the issue between yourselves then maybe you should just avoid each other. People are good enough at problem solving when they're really trying for rules to be a fallback measure in extreme cases. So with my values this development of rules everywhere with more and more power attached to them is absolutely disgusting.
So no. If you get far enough to get banned then just take the hint and go somewhere else, that particular community doesn't want you there and I have no idea why you'd want to be there. People work in coding communities to relax and have fun, having strict rules just takes away from that.
Also you don't have to look far to find stories of where downsizing caused departments to fight each other through HR.
The part that leads to totalitarianism is having rules everywhere. Claiming that it's just "people trying to be nice to each other" is exactly how overreaching rules are implemented. Have you seriously never heard the expression "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"? The same rules you seem think will protect you is exactly what totalitarians will embrace to gain power.
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Originally posted by andreano View PostTime to recompile, would be my instinct. Do game devs delete their source code after release, or what?
Having a dependency on a 32-bit userland is just an annoyance, and the wrong choice nowadays.
We don't need those old games to be recompiled. We just need a runtime to support them. That runtime doesn't have to follow modern development, so it should be kept separate from modern libraries.
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Originally posted by Djhg2000 View Post
You're not getting it.
Suppose you get banned from some project. Now you have two options; fork or work your way back in using the rules.- If you fork, you can go on being who you are and if your code is good some follow you from the original code base. Depending on how things work out you'll either end up with the more active branch, the dead branch or getting merged back in after settling your differences.
- If you work your way back in using the rules you'll be that annoying person that they can't get rid of and the project isn't really fun anymore. Other people know that if it comes to it you will throw the rule book at them and likely come out on top.
At least in my culture, calling to rules and authority to solve your problems is considered the nuclear option and if you can't work out the issue between yourselves then maybe you should just avoid each other. People are good enough at problem solving when they're really trying for rules to be a fallback measure in extreme cases. So with my values this development of rules everywhere with more and more power attached to them is absolutely disgusting.
So no. If you get far enough to get banned then just take the hint and go somewhere else, that particular community doesn't want you there and I have no idea why you'd want to be there. People work in coding communities to relax and have fun, having strict rules just takes away from that.
Also you don't have to look far to find stories of where downsizing caused departments to fight each other through HR.
The part that leads to totalitarianism is having rules everywhere. Claiming that it's just "people trying to be nice to each other" is exactly how overreaching rules are implemented. Have you seriously never heard the expression "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"? The same rules you seem think will protect you is exactly what totalitarians will embrace to gain power.
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Let's be clear there is something we do not know. To break all this has to have a good reason to unleash so much canonical hatred. Now since 19.04 some things in drivers were not good in my case nvidia when saving x.org as an example. But I also see that the manufacturers are not giving support they got stuck on 18.04. If Windows is a threat to the system that is said but does not give reasons and fuck more distros this will get ugly.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostI haven't heard anyone willingly using any Suse distro for over a decade. It's irrelevant. Does it even match Arch with the number of packages it has?
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Originally posted by doctorx69 View Postwell... canonical walking back their statements... freezing i386 libs with 18.10 versions. Still not the way to do this. Breaks dpkg and apt.
Yes 18.10 version is just about to be end of life. 18.04 is 2023 main stream support and 2028 for extended support.
Please note breaks dpkg and apt if you don't snap/container use 18.04. Basically Ubuntu is answer is container your old applications.
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Originally posted by timrichardson View PostFedora doesn't support NvIdia Optimus, so it's not a good choice for Steam laptop owners.
Nevertheless, the guideline on Bumblebee was updated: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US...ocs/bumblebee/ and so far no negative report on Fedora 30.
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