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  • #81
    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
    This is the correct car issue. You have the 2038 problem effecting the Linux 32 bit syscalls that means 32 bit Linux programs will need at some point to use time domains to be able to run and time domains are to be set up on a per container base. The security issues of old non maintained 32 bit programs are no joke either so you may want to reduce amount of access to the system those applications get by default and this is again put them in containers.
    This is an area I'm glad OpenBSD did the right thing with our 5.5 release (5 years ago). We moved our 32-bit archs over to 64-bit time_t. Non of the bullshit Linux is pulling now. It just reminds me of the garbage fire for large file support.

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    • #82
      Replying on comment #62 from a mobile. Moving SteamOS to a Fedora based distribution will be easier as the desktop is Gnome Shell based. Dnf/rpm as backend is fairly documented and writing a spec file is very easy with a well defined macros minimize breakage. Additionally, Valve will take advantage of the security feature like Selinux to help them resolve some vulnerabilities from the games themselves and also ostree based Fedora Silverblue infrastructure.

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      • #83
        Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Valve just dropped linux support. They pooled so many resources into the thing and nothing came back.

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        • #84
          Time to switch to Manjaro guys

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          • #85

            It will not be that canonical + google have better performance in the future ?. I think google stadia sell us direct games to native linux.

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            • #86
              It looks like I am going to seek refuge here: https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap/15_1 (KDE edition)
              I am a bit worried that I will have to keep fixing things with Tumbleweed, otherwise Tumbleweed looks great.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by anarki2 View Post
                Valve is slowly but surely realizing it's not games that prevented the Linux desktop from gaining popularity. It's because it doesn't work. I have to support this sh*t at work (preseed, Ansible, etc.), and I still face like 3 bugs a day which I have to work around somehow. Every feature or config option is a hit or miss, on some releases it works, on others, it won't.
                You're compiling the latest kernel git at your work? What bugs did you hit? Bug reports, please? You sounds like full of shit.

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                • #88
                  Fedora doesn't support NvIdia Optimus, so it's not a good choice for Steam laptop owners.
                  Ubuntu screwed up in so many ways. They didn't understand the technical consequences of the announcement. They didn't verify their proposed solutions first and they didn't consult. 19.10 will prove that this idea is a failure, just like they learnt from 17.10 how unready Wayland is. Both things didn't need a release to discover the obvious. Maybe this time Ubuntu desktop team can just change their mind before the obvious becomes obvious.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by cusa123 View Post
                    It will not be that canonical + google have better performance in the future ?. I think google stadia sell us direct games to native linux.
                    It is not true that you automatically have better performance on 64bit.
                    In general there is not much difference in speed between 32bit(x86) apps and 64bit(x86_64) apps
                    Last edited by Raka555; 06-22-2019, 07:09 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Almindor View Post
                      Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Valve just dropped linux support. They pooled so many resources into the thing and nothing came back.
                      I wouldn't be surprised if they're laughing from reading your post.

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