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  • #31
    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    Are all you people fucking retarded or what? The CoC is about the mailing lists, IRC and other official project communication channels.
    Yes, then why put in something like that?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post

      No it is based on the very prevalent assumption that if you want to enforce principles you need to write them down first, so everyone knows them and also enforcers don't have to decide with their own morals what is admissible and what is not.
      Of course the enforcers then get to decide what within their purview constitutes harassment and unwelcome attention.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
        And code quality isn't. Yeah, let's focus on having equal distribution of races and genders rather than a good codebase.

        The difference between Terms and Code of Conduct is that usually "Code of Conduct"s have to almost ALWAYS mention unnecessary things like "diversity" and "inclusion"...
        You people need to calm the fuck down, the CoC is NOT saying that code submitted by minorities or attack helicopters won't have to pass the same code review that any other submission does. It's not an intent of project focus either.

        I think you won... 🙁
        Reversing the question, does the CoC actually prevent (normal) people from contributing? Not in its current form.
        Asshole idiots ala Reiser will get kicked out faster, but then again you probably don't want idiot assholes in your development team anyway.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

          And code quality isn't. Yeah, let's focus on having equal distribution of races and genders rather than a good codebase.

          The difference between Terms and Code of Conduct is that usually "Code of Conduct"s have to almost ALWAYS mention unnecessary things like "diversity" and "inclusion"...
          The mention of things like "diversity" and "inclusion" just sounds all nice and lovely. It's not really causing an issue unless they start denying code submissions based on things like race or gender quotas. The real concern should be what's going on inside of the companies that fund these various open source projects.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by nils_ View Post

            Once you're sworn in there is a penalty for perjury that doesn't exist for "regular" speech. Of course in most civilized countries the religious form is optional.
            Doesn't matter if it's a religious text, "An Interview With a Vampire", or a printed out copy of the BTRFS man pages; does swearing on something really encourage one to be truthful or is the the fear of the penalty that encourages them to be truthful? A CoC, to me, is the same: both give a fear of a penalty or punishment to encourage one to do the right thing; whether or not that fear is effective varies by the person.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
              Are all you people fucking retarded or what? The CoC is about the mailing lists, IRC and other official project communication channels.
              It's "or what".

              I'm gonna go back to being retarded. It's funner being retarded.

              You people need to calm the fuck down, the CoC is NOT saying that code submitted by minorities or attack helicopters won't have to pass the same code review that any other submission does. It's not an intent of project focus either.
              That's Skynet code.

              And so it begins.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                Ah, push it, push it real good
                Ah, push it, git push it real good
                Hey! Ow!
                Push it good!
                force push it into master.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by nils_ View Post

                  Yes, then why put in something like that?
                  Because if you have written rules it's easier to enforce them.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by nils_ View Post
                    Of course the enforcers then get to decide what within their purview constitutes harassment and unwelcome attention.
                    If they go overboard they get a PR hit which will hurt the project. They are more likely to settle closer to what is the common consensus about the meaning of those terms than go and be creative.

                    This is similar to the good old days when lords owned land and such. The judge can technically decide everything but it's very unwise to piss off the people living in your community.

                    Human justice on smaller scales is still very much a "crowd-assisted" thing. It's when you have large nations than it's no more a community and people starts not giving a shit about anyone else.

                    Even more precise laws won't matter if the people in charge are pricks or SJWs, so that would just be overkill.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                      Are all you people fucking retarded or what? The CoC is about the mailing lists, IRC and other official project communication channels.
                      Well that sentence would cause an action based on 95% of the CoC out there... and some even go as far as to block people that interact in such manner on other forms of media.

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