Mozilla "WebThings" No Longer An Experiment

[starshipeleven]

Mozzilla (and google) took dissenter add on off their store and is suppressing anybody who complains about it, unsigned, no addon can run in regular consumer browser builds longer than the session

an addon that connects to an user account in a remote server, and this remote server will know what you posted, when and where?

Seriously, what the fuck is this fake "rebel" shit. Wake up sheeple.

[starshipeleven]

Reading the dissenter site it says you don't need the extension?
quote: "To get started create an account and login to Dissenter. Next you'll want to download the Dissenter browser extension, although it is not required."

It's more convenient I guess. Without the extension you need to copy-paste the link in the "Paste Url here" box on the top right in Dissenter webpage every time.

[cynical]

Mozzilla (and google) took dissenter add on off their store and is suppressing anybody who complains about it, unsigned, no addon can run in regular consumer browser builds longer than the session

That's amazing. I remember being in a thread somewhere when this addon was first announced, and someone had mentioned their concern that it might be blocked by browsers or websites or whatever. Back then I said that it was more likely they would take it off their online stores. They are so predictable these days.

[ssokolow]

Check it out yourself: https://github.com/gab-ai-inc/gab-dissenter-extension

I'm not sure what I'd check out. According to what I read in the issue tracker, it does send every URL you visit to their server by default and the response was "Yeah? so what. You can uncheck that if you don't want it.".

The question is what they do wit that information once it arrives on their servers and whether Mozilla considers that kind of behaviour being opt-out rather than opt-in to be "abuse".

(I think I remember Stylish and Self-Destroying Cookies getting kicked off AMO for the same sort of "send every URL you load to the add-on developer" behaviour... though I might possibly be mis-remembering the latter. I know Self-Destroying Cookies was kicked off for some kind of gratuitous phoning home.)

[soulsource]

We are slightly getting off topic here...

So, back on the topic of WebThings: As long as it does not support HTCPCP it is not really ready for the IoT, isn't it?

[starshipeleven]

I'm not sure what I'd check out. According to what I read in the issue tracker, it does send every URL you visit to their server by default and the response was "Yeah? so what. You can uncheck that if you don't want it.".

That's peanuts.
Given how this service works (it's basically a third party comment engine like say Disqus, layered on other sites by the end user instead than integrated into the page by the web developer), all the comments you write and read are stored physically in their servers. They know what you wrote, where and when.

Seriously, how can people be so fucking retarded. This is a data-collection tool.

[juno]

That's amazing. I remember being in a thread somewhere when this addon was first announced, and someone had mentioned their concern that it might be blocked by browsers or websites or whatever. Back then I said that it was more likely they would take it off their online stores. They are so predictable these days.

Wow. Real fortune telling. Breaking the rules means one has to live with the consequences, so predictable!!!

[Weasel]

There is nothing 'smart' about hooking your refrigerator, water heater, thermostat, security cameras, microphones, door locks, etc. up to the internet.

It's basically as "smart" as writing something in Rust. Mozilla know best how that is.

[starshipeleven]

It's basically as "smart" as writing something in Rust. Mozilla know best how that is.

Ah good you didn't forget.

Firefox articles always need your completely unbiased opinion on Rust.

[higuita]

All censorship is evil. Don't like it, don't use it.

we all agree that censorship is evil, but ignoring a problem is also evil. Everything needs a balance.

just because i do not like nor use child porn, it doesn't make it ok to exist as long i do not see it.
the same for ISIS propaganda. the same for nazi propaganda. That is just hide the head in the sand until that problem kicks you back.

one thing is to say black/jews/women/whatever are bad/stupid/whatever, another is to say they should die and promote that kind of actions.

There is a hard to define line that limits the free speech, when it starts to invade the other guy own freedom and rights.
Country laws set most of this limits, but people and companies can also set their own limits. Dissenter did want to push the limit and browsers allowed and then push it back when it started to generate complains. It's the equilibrium being set.