Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Fedora Planning A Per-System Unique Identifier For DNF To Count Users

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Fedora Planning A Per-System Unique Identifier For DNF To Count Users

    Phoronix: Fedora Planning A Per-System Unique Identifier For DNF To Count Users

    Fedora developers are looking at implementing a per-system UUID identifier leveraged by the DNF package manager in order to more accurately count their user-base...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-User-Proposal

  • Danny3
    replied
    Originally posted by Britoid View Post

    Except you're not being tracked and you know that, you're just looking for a reason to complain.
    Yeah, keep you blind faith in them, just because they say they're not tracking, even though they're putting tracking tools in, and let others develop anti-tracking tools against this kind of behaviour.

    Leave a comment:


  • ssokolow
    replied
    Gah! It seems that the system has decided that "this user quoted SystemCrasher" is an indicator of spam.

    Leave a comment:


  • ssokolow
    replied
    Pinging Michael. Unapproved comment which doesn't even have any URLs in it.

    Also, something else I forgot to say in that post:

    Originally posted by SystemCrasher View Post
    Otherwise some unhealthy things eventually happen, since UUIDs eventually happen to be same and it causes funny bugs. And since UUIDs gone quite widespread, properly re-seeding all unique IDs is kind of black magic on its own.
    Things have inherent namespaces. If a Windows CLSID happens to collide with a Linux partition identifier, then the person who was storing the both of them in the same database was Doing It Wrong™ and they deserve what they get since the only valid use for that which has any chance of triggering a collision is some kind of universal "look up info about private PCs by UUID" database.
    Last edited by ssokolow; 01-14-2019, 12:02 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • ssokolow
    replied
    Originally posted by SystemCrasher View Post
    P.s. all this UUIDs idiocy is rather annoying. Say, HDDs are far better off with human-readable labels rather than UUIDs.
    Yeah, I'd really love to have my distro installer prompt me to explore and choose a name for every random partition it detects before the installation can complete.

    Leave a comment:


  • SystemCrasher
    replied
    It's really exciting to see Fedora turning into spyware, sure! Next they should try adding some ads. What about builtin keylogger as well? Just to improve quality of service! Oh, and shouldn't Zeitgeist or something send some random files to NSA for investigation? Would be nice to have feature parity with Windows Defender, etc.

    P.s. all this UUIDs idiocy is rather annoying. Say, HDDs are far better off with human-readable labels rather than UUIDs. Yet corporate spiggots can't imagine life without spyware-like techs hostile to humans. So they prefer totally random numbers, only convenient for NSA and not really convenient for everyone else. Same crap for machine ID and so on. So now when one needs to respin say VM from template, they have to change plenty of things. Otherwise some unhealthy things eventually happen, since UUIDs eventually happen to be same and it causes funny bugs. And since UUIDs gone quite widespread, properly re-seeding all unique IDs is kind of black magic on its own.
    Last edited by SystemCrasher; 01-13-2019, 01:52 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • F.Ultra
    replied
    Originally posted by onicsis View Post

    Not by Fedora, but by a third-party using something similar to this cases: NSA Collects MS Windows Error Information,

    Russian Hackers Used Bug in Microsoft Windows for Spying, Report Says
    Unlike the monkeys at Redmond, rpm/yum/dnf uses HTTPS when communicating so this data is not sent in the clear. Besides that NSA does not need a UUID for doing this, the reason they use the Windows Error info is because that message tells that the user with that IP is running software that is susceptible for e.g buffer overflows and for this they do not need the UUID and they could do the very same to your Fedora install today before this change.

    Leave a comment:


  • onicsis
    replied
    Originally posted by F.Ultra View Post

    Please explain how this even remotely resembles DRM, should be quite interesting to read. And for the rest of your ramblings, Fedore would not need any of that information if they ever wanted to target your system since you already give them full access to overwrite every single binary on your system when you run rpm/yum/dnf.
    Not by Fedora, but by a third-party using something similar to this cases: NSA Collects MS Windows Error Information,

    Russian Hackers Used Bug in Microsoft Windows for Spying, Report Says

    Leave a comment:


  • F.Ultra
    replied
    Originally posted by onicsis View Post
    Usually Fedora projects do a really good and innovative/pioneering job in Linux World, but this is a no-go and sounds like a DRM for open source, uniquely trying to identify every Fedora installation in the world tracking private and accurate informations about every package from the a system, the time when the user do an upgrade, vulnerabilties of a given traget and many other usefull for spying who knows what laboratory, factory, institution, industrial or production or research facility etc
    Please explain how this even remotely resembles DRM, should be quite interesting to read. And for the rest of your ramblings, Fedore would not need any of that information if they ever wanted to target your system since you already give them full access to overwrite every single binary on your system when you run rpm/yum/dnf.

    Leave a comment:


  • onicsis
    replied
    Usually Fedora projects do a really good and innovative/pioneering job in Linux World, but this is a no-go and sounds like a DRM for open source, uniquely trying to identify every Fedora installation in the world tracking private and accurate informations about every package from the a system, the time when the user do an upgrade, vulnerabilties of a given traget and many other usefull for spying who knows what laboratory, factory, institution, industrial or production or research facility etc

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X