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  • brrrrttttt
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    Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
    On one hand this patch probably is necessary for people running systems that aren't getting microcode updates anymore, of which there are quite a few seeing how hardware vendors' cut-off points tend to have plenty serviceable systems falling on the wrong side of it and it could stop some undiscovered and yet-to-be-resolved issues. I'd be interested to see what this does to the new speculative execution vulnerabilities published as recently last week.
    If you don't get microcode updates, you won't have these instructions?

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  • milkylainen
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    I kinda suspected it. I was waiting for the middle finger, but alas we have less of the colorful character nowdays.
    I don't like it in general when security fixes for broken hardware make it deep into core.
    Especially ones that have large and unpredictable performance penalties. All because of security fiat.

    I'd like it if Linux had a big fat naglist for really stupid hardware as a non-avoidable text output.
    I'm not talking about peripheral stuff. But CPU's. PCIe controllers. Block device controllers. Etc.
    That way nobody forgets until their crap is fixed.

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  • aufkrawall
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    Originally posted by GrayShade View Post
    I'm not Michael, but have you considered subscribing? I think Michael usually has some decent discounts around Christmas. Even if you don't care much for the benchmarks, it's still a good place to find news. And a "lifetime" subscription is what, about the cost of a pair of shoes?
    I'm not yet in a phase of life where I can support every project I like monetarily.
    I regularly click some ads though.

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  • birdie
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    You'd receive a lot less hate if you weren't so hostilely opinionated and, ironically, attention-seeking.
    "hostilely" - you mean I call BS what I see BS? Sorry, I can't restrain myself when there is a lot more idiots on the Internet than of reasonable people who actually know something. You see, IRL idiots are at least prudent enough to remain silent - not so much on the internet where absolute most people are hidden behind nicknames. And, also when you're polite, your reasoning will be simply dismissed.

    Opinionated, you mean "knowledgeable"?

    "ironically, attention-seeking" - never thought about that actually. And if I really were, I'd find another avenue. And being notorious among Linux users? WTF, are you even serious? It's like being famous among hobos. Yes, it's a sort of insult but your reply was a pure insult in the first place because it egregiously misrepresented facts.

    Still, fuck off. At least I made Linus notice the issue. You, petty fuckers at Phoronix, may keep on upvoting your insults towards me as much as you want. Most of you bloody suckers haven't done anything for Linux or open source in your entire useless life and you hate everyone with a brain who notices issues with your OS which most people in the world couldn't care less about.


    Well, thank you.
    Last edited by birdie; 20 November 2018, 05:38 AM. Reason: Linux -> Linus

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  • GrayShade
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    Originally posted by aufkrawall View Post
    We need a central guide how to disable all the mitigations both at runtime and also at compile time.

    Thanks for your efforts, Michael. While I'm not a fan of every benchmark of yours, I still disable the adblocker on non-mobile devices because you often do a great job otherwise.
    I'm not Michael, but have you considered subscribing? I think Michael usually has some decent discounts around Christmas. Even if you don't care much for the benchmarks, it's still a good place to find news. And a "lifetime" subscription is what, about the cost of a pair of shoes?

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  • kokoko3k
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    What's the kernel switch, if any, to disable it?

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  • aufkrawall
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    We need a central guide how to disable all the mitigations both at runtime and also at compile time.

    Thanks for your efforts, Michael. While I'm not a fan of every benchmark of yours, I still disable the adblocker on non-mobile devices because you often do a great job otherwise.

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  • perpetually high
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    Michael and it's me, sir, who made Linus notice the issue. I'm just saying. Despite tons of hatred that I receive here. Luckily I don't care.

    It's kinda sad that when I'm saying something here people disregard me, but if it's Linus then, "Oh, God, he's so right".
    "so Linus, how did you find out about these performance issues"

    "A little birdie told me..."

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  • TemplarGR
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    Glad to see Linux saying essentially what i have been saying here and many trolls called me an idiot, moronic, etc. Take that trolls...

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  • ThoreauHD
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    This new CoC in ass Linus seems to not be getting respected by his 50% performance cutting under-comrades. Who could see that coming?

    Everyone.

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