Good work Michael, and thanks for the article.
I can't wait to get my 16 core Zen 2.
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Originally posted by tuxd3v View PostWait and see the next 2 years of vulnerabilities pooping up..
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Well,
This was predictable...but the problem..is a lot bigger...
Wait and see the next 2 years of vulnerabilities pooping up..
intel is doomed...blame the Russians!
With AMD designing from the ground up, a new CPU, and patenting it ...
How will intel redesign a new chip?
Now the situation INTEL<-> amd , inverted, and its AMD<-> intel LOOL
Time for Intel to reintroduce the HP itanium?
And everybody was trolling the Russian Elbrus8S, the Baikal T1....
hehehe they kick the asses of Intel now
Time for ARM, AMD,Power, Mips to grow..
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Originally posted by RealNC View PostSo disable SMT.
Good thing Intel removed HT in new i7 CPUs. At first I thought this was just Intel being Intel (== charging more money while offering less in return), but it turns out they were pro-consumer. HT makes your CPU slower now, so they were thinking ahead.
* applause *
And of course there is the added bonus of extra security. I don't know if a mitigation for SMT exploits has been developed yet, but the performance cost of it is likely going to be prohibitive.
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Originally posted by davidbepo View Postwant your performance back? here is the magical "word": nospectre_v2
spectre is a lower security threat than meltdown and this level of performance degradation is absolutely unacceptable and the only logical choice is to disable the mitigation as ive already done
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Originally posted by Weasel View PostSee what I mean with idiots spreading bullshit on this forum about how it only affects Intel?
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Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
That is what the wintel conspiracy wants people to do, to waste money to slow, resource hog and buggy software. Gnome3 is horrible and no CPU and ssd is enough fast to run windows ui, gnome3 and kde without lags. Poorly designed software never runs fine.
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Originally posted by abott View PostSome people here are highly moronic.
Intel beats AMD in single thread, but it's not from "cheating". They have a flaw which reduces performance to fix it currently, but in-hardware the fix would be no overhead at all. Moronic to call it "cheating" and it's really pathetic to see that here.
Hyperthreading is useful for running multi-threaded programs that only need two threads. It doesn't have to hit another cache for the data it needs, it can stay on-core for it, and it's not a bad feature. It also can block it's self, and not all cores for data because it never leaves the core. It will never go away, either, until we have another architecture bigger than x86/x64. It's also moronic to suspect that.
The amount of FUD here is pathetic, it is painful to read quite a few of these posts. Take off your tinfoil hats, you pathetic morons.
I just can't wait until Zen 2/Intel 10nm hardware to come out to fix them and be secure, that's all there is to it really. Give them time, they'll fix it, and we'll find another thing worse in 10 years again.
Also, get a grip and stop spreading Intel PR material in an effort to do damage control. It is very apparent. Try the pc gaming reddit, posters here are typically more educated in IT.
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Originally posted by dungeon View Post
Well, to quote finalzone post stats on AMD Ryzen says this:
Older Intel CPUs have YES to all and that is from where AMD users comments coming Intel became nearly equal to AMD since only newest 9xxx, also since 9800K have HT, this probably making non HT 9700K sexier since these have also fixed Meltdown/Foreshadow
It is great for existing AMD users as they are not so affected and that is valid. Software mitigations will eat some performance but is correct thing to do, of course by the time vendors will fix all these on new hardware.
At the end if you don't have security concerns then disable all mitigations and fly
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