Apple's New Hardware With The T2 Security Chip Will Currently Block Linux From Booting

[polarathene]

You can install Linux on a virtual machine. And said virtual machine of course runs under macOS. Not the other way around.

> Or are you talking about the other way? Running Linux in a VM guest on macOS? Ew. At least with a Linux host you can make a guest VM more native in performance by giving it exclusive hardware access(such as GPU or Disk).

Already covered that in the same post. Running Linux as a desktop OS in a VM for me is not pleasant(unless the host is providing hardware passthrough)

[polarathene]

It is safe to say Mac OS is light years ahead of Linux and Windows when it comes to stability and reliability.

Stable and reliable at UI updates.... I remember macOS grinding to a snail pace for mouse/keyboard input either due to CPU or memory pressure, took about 30 minutes or longer to kill some tasks or save my work (I think the process that was causing the problem was the macOS kernel or something). Despite that, the spinning busy cursor icon was really fluid and smooth, and some apps on the dock that wanted attention bounced up and down buttery smooth... priorities lol. That was in 2016.

Majority of my macOS experiences were negative, only nice for casual use, trying to be productive on it like I was with Windows or Linux was full of issues :\ Ones specific to macOS that most of the communities advice to resolve was to throw more money away.

[andyprough]

Never bothered with Apple gear and could never understand why anyone would. Overpriced and underperforming. And beloved by the consumption-as-religion class that also believes they are achieving social justice and environmental justice through their choice of coffee shops and ice cream brands.

[grigi]

Personally I see no place for anything Apple in the world. Their hardware is truly anti-consumer, they prioritise form over function every time. Their os (specifically OSX) is a pile of stinking blegh. Yes their touchpads used to be the best, now they are just too big. Their hardware used to be really well done, now it is dongle hell and the worlds worst keyboard.

Apple did a lot to make computing worse for everyone.

[grigi]

The "Ubuntu reference" has for example nice DELL 5495, however this device has a touchpad that claims to be a mouse, so don't expect any gestures, scroll, taps-to-click to work.

Actually it is a supported touchpad on a i2c bus, I have one.
You have to set up i2c correctly in the kernel (by default it only works on Intel hw) and then use libinput as it doesn't work in synaptics.
Then it is actually quite nice.

[Hi-Angel]

Actually it is a supported touchpad on a i2c bus, I have one.
You have to set up i2c correctly in the kernel (by default it only works on Intel hw) and then use libinput as it doesn't work in synaptics.
Then it is actually quite nice.

How to setup i2c bus in kernel? Btw, since you already know how to do that, you could directly reply the askubuntu post I linked.

[Hi-Angel]

I guess I too can share my negative experience with Mac OS. My gf got a mid-2012 air notebook. At some point, probably after some update, it started lagging as hell due to kernel_task hogging all processor cores. We tried everything, including full reinstall of OS, nothing helped. At the same time, she has Windows installed which works fine, and I also tried loading Live Fedora System, which also worked fine.

The worst thing is that there's no way to debug this thing. Internet is full of guess-work solutions (lots of which we tried), and nobody has any idea how to debug it. There's no way to figure out, for example, which kernel modules are involved. I bet on GNU/Linux debugging "kworker" in the same situation would have been a lot more easier.

[starshipeleven]

The worst thing is that there's no way to debug this thing. Internet is full of guess-work solutions (lots of which we tried), and nobody has any idea how to debug it. There's no way to figure out, for example, which kernel modules are involved. I bet on GNU/Linux debugging "kworker" in the same situation would have been a lot more easier.

To give some context, also Windows can be debugged to a pretty decent extent, and you can usually figure out what drivers are involved in some crash or "high CPU usage issue" (like for example finding out that the driver is ACPI.sys aka the ACPI driver, at that point you know the hardware's ACPI tables are fucked up and that getting a good HP laptop model is a crapshoot).

[slalomsk8er]

I guess I too can share my negative experience with Mac OS.

Let me share mine:

I got 4 years old iMac as a gift. I upgraded the OS but now I can't update the OS and free Apple programs because some of them got installed by the original owners Appstore/iCloud account

I didn't want to wipe the system as he is a frequent guest in the music room where the machine now stands and requested to not deleting his account because of all the nice music still in there.

Now I lost any motivation to touch this OSX crap ever again - snow leopard was the last usable version IMHO. After that I got pissed off every release by some paper cuts that were worse then the minor benefits of the new version.

[starshipeleven]

I got 4 years old iMac as a gift. I upgraded the OS but now I can't update the OS and free Apple programs because some of them got installed by the original owners Appstore/iCloud account

I didn't want to wipe the system as he is a frequent guest in the music room where the machine now stands and requested to not deleting his account because of all the nice music still in there.

That's a very weird concept of "gift" this person has (I know some people who are like him). If you gift me something you lose all control over it.

I also can't stand people that use older full blown computers as mass storage devices, wtf is "all the nice music still in there", wtf it means I can't take your old laptop you never used in years "because you have your photos on it". Move your shit to an external storage device people. Same people that will cry when the internal drive dies and try to get me to perform a miracle to restore their data.

(not shouting at you, it's a general rant at this type of behavior).