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Linus Torvalds Shows His New Polite Side While Pointing Out Bad Kernel Code

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  • L_A_G
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    I really didn't see anything wrong in his previous email about not enabling drivers by default for no good reason... If he has to repeat himself every merge window that's not getting angry for no good reason, that's merely being human and getting angry for a completely justified reason.

    As for dealing with it, the way would do it would be to revert the commit and then ask the responsible maintainer explain/justify why the driver had to be turned off by default or if it was a mistake and then post a fixed update. The thing about naming and shaming is that it actually works surprisingly well and with the Linux kernel you can't even make the argument of "It scares off new developers" as blame travels up the hierarchy and as a result the targets of Linus' ire are the people best equipped to deal with it, i.e senior maintainers.

    As someone who thinks that Linux's anger management hiatus was unnecessary I will admit that just blowing up at someone isn't the most effective way to deal with people making the same mistakes or just plain refusing to learn from them, but only because naming and shaming is so much more effective.
    Last edited by L_A_G; 27 October 2018, 05:36 PM.

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  • malakudi
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    Old Linus is better. Enough with this "politically correct" crap. If new "devs" can't stand to be shouted at when they do something wrong, maybe they are not good enough for such a project. Politically correct crap makes usage of master/slave terminology to be removed from Python, male/female terminology is asked to be removed from goverment forms in some countries, what f....ing next? Pollitically correctness is a disease!

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  • speculatrix
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    Maybe what he does is write a good rant and then sends it to some other kernel developer who has the job of rewriting it to be PC?

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  • triangle
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    I have a feeling this will only be temporary. The more bad code he looks at, the faster the effects of re-education wear off.

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  • cl333r
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    Originally posted by edoantonioco View Post
    He probably cursed a lot while writing it and then he replaced curses with good words to be PC
    and threw a chair at the wall

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  • amehaye
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    Am I the only one who actually liked the 'old' Linus style?
    I always found his rants and colorful language amusing. Oh well.

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  • edoantonioco
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    He probably cursed a lot while writing it and then he replaced curses with good words to be PC

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  • Dedale
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    That sounds cool if he's nicer but it is a bit early to make conclusions. That being said, i have read the provided links and THAT is the "harsh" language "laced" with profanity !? I don't know if they are typical of the worst of Linus's posts but i find them very tame. And i have seen a few "[email protected]" and "fvck" !?

    Curse words aside, someone shocked by that would be traumatized by just the entrance exam here and would be unable to function in the real world.

    I heard all these jokes about the "snowflakes" but come on, they are rants, right !? It's not for real !?

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  • pracedru
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    I am not sure any of those comments was over the line.
    There was no hatefull language.
    It was mostly frustration about Linus having to repeat himself. Which is understandable in my opinion.

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  • tildearrow
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    I hope this doesn't lead to developers abusing his patience

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