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  • #11
    Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
    With Windows OS as a service now, they have no incentive to do any hard work, or even basic QC. Release now, fix it later.
    so what. Neither RHEL nor Debian are that reliable either. What happened to Eric Raymond's "Release Early, Release Often"?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by eydee View Post
      50 years ago Windows XP service pack: Security Center, Firewall, new APIs, new WMP, etc.

      Today Windows 10 service pack: Dark theme and emojis.

      M$ doing the hard work here.
      The hard work nowadays is centered around their Core OS initiative and getting their OS / software ported to ARM64. It is still a bit off until the average user will see fruits of that labour and if it is any good anyway. Their UWP centric approach and getting rid of Win32 makes me a bit nervous that they become more Apple-like in the end, this is not what I would like to see. Albeit having an ARM alternative to the Intel-centric desktop world could be exciting if it performs well and is more cost effective. It needs a big advantage to be a viable alternative though, longer battery times alone just won't cut it. By the way, I still remember the 90s where AMD, Intel and Cyrix even used the same Socket infrastructure and leapfrogged each other. We need more competition on the ISA, OS, CPU and GPU manufacturer level to make PC computing exciting again.

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      • #13
        This sudden wave of dark theme support is interesting. First mobile apps, then Windows. Did macOS also announce dark theme support recently?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post
          This sudden wave of dark theme support is interesting. First mobile apps, then Windows. Did macOS also announce dark theme support recently?
          OLED's lack of backlight makes white-on-black more readable and healthier at all degrees of room illumination. Before that, papers showed black-on-white was better for the eyes in well-lit room so products targeting offices (windows) defaulted on those while consumer products aimed at consumer homes and living rooms (TVs) went with black themes.

          Personally I've always preferred white-on-black regardless.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post
            This sudden wave of dark theme support is interesting. First mobile apps, then Windows. Did macOS also announce dark theme support recently?
            Yep , the kids have won. Their tacky gamer "dark" themes will now be plaguing us for around 3 years until they grow up. We will then have around 10 years of decent usability again until the next batch of kids come in and push for a childish dark theme again. Sad.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by kpedersen View Post

              Yep , the kids have won. Their tacky gamer "dark" themes will now be plaguing us for around 3 years until they grow up. We will then have around 10 years of decent usability again until the next batch of kids come in and push for a childish dark theme again. Sad.
              This is the most moronic thing I have ever read. Dark theme support is great, as someone who programs for 8 hours a day some times. White sucks. It strains your eyes, it's impossible to start working at 2AM comfortably, and it's just the worst theme option. Dark themes is maturing your apps to be more flexible for more people who actually use their computer, not hipster trash like your idiocy makes it out to be.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post
                This sudden wave of dark theme support is interesting. First mobile apps, then Windows. Did macOS also announce dark theme support recently?
                Yes, it's one of the most important things in the latest MacOS update.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by kpedersen View Post

                  Yep , the kids have won. Their tacky gamer "dark" themes will now be plaguing us for around 3 years until they grow up. We will then have around 10 years of decent usability again until the next batch of kids come in and push for a childish dark theme again. Sad.
                  This is bullshit, on crappy screens the black themes cause less eyestrain. Besides it's just a theme, you can not switch to it if you don't like it.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by abott View Post
                    This is the most moronic thing I have ever read. Dark theme support is great, as someone who programs for 8 hours a day some times. White sucks. It strains your eyes, it's impossible to start working at 2AM comfortably, and it's just the worst theme option. Dark themes is maturing your apps to be more flexible for more people who actually use their computer, not hipster trash like your idiocy makes it out to be.
                    Imho if white is straining your eyes you have a shitty screen and/or your screen brightness is too high (common to compensate a shitty screen), I've already seen weird things like screens where the brightness is at max and then the user throws a black theme on everything.

                    If the screen isn't total crap, white themes and low brightness is best. Similar to a piece of paper.

                    Is your screen IPS? If not consider an upgrade.

                    Note that I'm not disagreeing with you on black themes.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by eydee View Post
                      50 years ago Windows XP service pack: Security Center, Firewall, new APIs, new WMP, etc.

                      Today Windows 10 service pack: Dark theme and emojis.

                      M$ doing the hard work here.
                      Why would they waste money on something they want to kill off? Their CEO is a Linux fan, and the focus is on Azure and making everything else run on everybody else's operating systems.

                      Windows is in maintenance mode, they just don't want to panic investors.

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