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    Phoronix: Google/Microsoft/Twitter/Facebook Announce The Open-Source Data Transfer Project

    Google in cooperation with Microsoft, Twitter, and Facebook have announced the open-source Data Transfer Project to promote universal data portability...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ansfer-Project

  • #2
    Looks like this is something that lets them share our data with each other (and, well, with other "interested parties" too).

    I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bregma View Post
      Looks like this is something that lets them share our data with each other (and, well, with other "interested parties" too).

      I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.
      There is no semantic difference between:

      1. Downloading a PDF article into a temporary file
      2. Uploading the temp file to Google Drive
      3. Deleting the temp file

      and:

      1. Telling Google Drive to download the article itself

      The second series of actions is shorter, more convenient, and faster in terms of bits/second.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bregma View Post
        Looks like this is something that lets them share our data with each other (and, well, with other "interested parties" too).

        I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.
        This, neither of these companies is known for privacy and this will only allow them to share who knows what among each other and third parties, EULA for this is going to make for an interesting read.

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        • #5
          Microsoft ASP.NET MVC Core 2.1 with Identity allows you to download a JSON file of the user account. It is built so that the model can be extended with custom data from other data sources, such as database tables.

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          • #6
            What's wrong with Apache Arrow and Parquet?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bregma View Post
              Looks like this is something that lets them share our data with each other (and, well, with other "interested parties" too).

              I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.
              They can do that already, if you don't want this, don't use their services.

              What's new is that *you* can transfer data in between services. It's basically a step towards GDPR-compliance, which ensures the right to data portability in article 20.

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              • #8
                In my experience it's all about the bottom line. Here I'd suggest (in no particular order) the following apply: (a) Risk mitigation, (b) Increased revenue and (c) reduction of cost/time. Revenue could include data-sharing as Bregma points out. Reduction of cost/time as per Cerberus describes, also including data import at the back end which hits the risk issue.

                I rarely find big business is ever 'our friend' and so it's easy to take a cynical view. What I do find though is that aside from some clearly cynical firms, most other businesses don't consciously care about the knock-on effects once they hit their bottom line as it's not their responsibility/area of operation.

                That all said, Google's motto is (was?) "Do No Evil" so sure we can trust them because they told us so.... once we get past the bottom line, that is.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bregma View Post
                  Looks like this is something that lets them share our data with each other (and, well, with other "interested parties" too).

                  I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.
                  My first thought was as well that the "other interested parties" need a easier access to our data. Surveillance is only for our security ;-)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bregma View Post
                    I'd rather have something that lets me control my data instead of something that makes it easier for monetizers and monitors to move my data between their services.
                    Here's an idea:
                    Don't use their services. You can control your own data, pretty effortlessly.
                    Nobody is forcing you to upload your data to them. Unless you're a high-profile criminal, despite what you think, nobody cares about you or your data - you're not special, you're not important, and you're not interesting. Neither am I or anyone else. This paranoia of companies "controlling my data" is ridiculous and so self-centered, and nobody stops to realize that the universe doesn't revolve around them. You are nothing but a number to these multi-billion dollar companies. Frankly, I'd rather them collect my data and give me an ad that's probably relevant to me, than see a bunch of ads for weight loss, makeup, and mortgage ratings.
                    Last edited by schmidtbag; 07-20-2018, 10:02 AM.

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