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  • #41
    Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post
    May sound a bit extreme but I value my privacy and as long as there is an good option out there that in theory respects that(you can't never be sure of course) I will never again trust Microsoft with anything as long as it is humanly avoidable.
    Well there are basically two things only github knows (as long as you only have public repositories and no private gists): Your Name (where you can put whatever really) and your email (where you can put whatever again). So what privacy are you talking about?

    Maybe github has a better grasp on when you do pushes and so on, but I really don't see a privacy concern overall here. And if you put important private data into the hands of others, its was your choice/mistake to begin with,

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    • #42
      Originally posted by karolherbst View Post
      after reading some comments here, I think most don't see that MS "fight against Linux/OpenSource" is over already. They didn't buy github to destroy/harm Linux or Open Source in any way. MS knows they lost to Linux/OpenSource basically everywhere except the desktop market (ignoring Azure here. They are still important there for stupid reasons: Name and special business needs like certifications).

      They know they've lost and now they have to see how to remain a company with a valid business approach.

      Sure they can still screw up github, but I doubt they would do so intentionally.
      It's nice to see someone has realised that Microsoft is no longer trying to fight Linux. The fight is over: Microsoft lost.

      With Desktop markets shrinking every year, Microsoft knows that they need to change and adapt to stay viable - and frankly they've done a great job of it. There's a reason they're the biggest contributor to Github - they've produced a lot of great open-source work. .net core is a fantastic development platform and you don't have to pay Microsoft a penny to use it.

      Most people should realise that Microsoft's future is in Azure. That's what this acquisition is really all about. Expect a "one-click-deploy-to-azure" button to appear on repositories, expect tighter integration with Azure but I doubt much else will really change in the short term.

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      • #43
        What everyone seems to be forgetting here is all the cash Github was bleeding prior to MSFT buying them out. As it was structured, Github had enough cash to keep going *maybe* a year longer before going broke.

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        • #44
          who cares? RedHat do the same when they want enter in some bussiness

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          • #45
            Originally posted by andyprough View Post
            Amazing how much money Linus's little hobby projects are worth in today's dollars.
            Because he writes high quality code in a high quality language like C. Not bunch of crap code a grandma can write over the weekend that "seems to work" (10 times slower than it should). I'd rather have 1 Linux kernel and 1 git than 10 crap projects doing the same thing but slow as...

            Oops wrong thread.

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            • #46
              Why couldn't MS have bought the heroin trade instead, everyone would have been on coffee and crackers by tomorrow…

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              • #47
                Originally posted by FireBurn View Post
                Microsoft bought it to make money from it, not to extinguish it. Expect super easy integration to Azure for CI and deployments of code. Expect businesses to have to pay for it. I doubt end users will notice any differences. Microsoft bought it because it has lots of users, they don't want to scare them away
                It's MS. If there's a way to fuck it up and make it worse for users, you can bet that the business and legal depts. will eventually find a way to do just that.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by karolherbst View Post

                  Well there are basically two things only github knows (as long as you only have public repositories and no private gists): Your Name (where you can put whatever really) and your email (where you can put whatever again). So what privacy are you talking about?

                  Maybe github has a better grasp on when you do pushes and so on, but I really don't see a privacy concern overall here. And if you put important private data into the hands of others, its was your choice/mistake to begin with,
                  Again stop assuming privacy equals "ohh you put you home address and credit card numbers in Github, hey is your fault", sure that is face of privacy but come on, stop trying to stretch reality here because no one will do that(almost, since I'm statistically sure someone somewhere did since idiots are extremely creative in new ways of being idiots).

                  My worries are simply as follow:

                  1.) certainty that Microsoft won't force in some way a vendor blockade on some features into their platforms or specifically isolate new technology that could compete against some Microsoft only product on the platform(they've done this in the past in every possible way known to mankind, so an simply nah! they won't do it this time is not enough).

                  2.) shady monetization of certain usage patterns with ad companies and other backstage means, if they do it with Windows I won't simply believe "nah, GitHub is safe from this because reasons"

                  3.) simply and suddenly absorb GitHub into their .NET/Azure cloud "platform"(which is probably where their big $$$ share will come) and screw everyone else like they've done with dozens and dozens of businesses before.

                  Sure, I expect you to think this CEO is different, they don't do that anymore, is 7.5B they won't do it, etc.etc.etc but in 20+ years I've heard that and many many more excuses and still happened, sure you guys maybe right this one time but again my point is why take any risk if there are other platform almost or equally good, hence I moved on to those.

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                  • #49
                    Github was never that great to begin with. It always had this condescending view of its users being based on a closed source platform. I couldn't understand why people like it so much considering it has this condescing "Youre a fool so youre not worthy to look at the source code for this" view of its users, when we have other open source sites such as Sourceforge (Apache Allura) and Gitlab.

                    This sale is not very inconsistent with Githubs arrogant and condescending closed source attitude.

                    This sale is good news for Gitlab and Sourceforge, and for open source in general, now people hopefully will use these open source based alternatives now.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Post

                      Again stop assuming privacy equals "ohh you put you home address and credit card numbers in Github, hey is your fault", sure that is face of privacy but come on, stop trying to stretch reality here because no one will do that(almost, since I'm statistically sure someone somewhere did since idiots are extremely creative in new ways of being idiots).

                      My worries are simply as follow:

                      1.) certainty that Microsoft won't force in some way a vendor blockade on some features into their platforms or specifically isolate new technology that could compete against some Microsoft only product on the platform(they've done this in the past in every possible way known to mankind, so an simply nah! they won't do it this time is not enough).

                      2.) shady monetization of certain usage patterns with ad companies and other backstage means, if they do it with Windows I won't simply believe "nah, GitHub is safe from this because reasons"

                      3.) simply and suddenly absorb GitHub into their .NET/Azure cloud "platform"(which is probably where their big $$$ share will come) and screw everyone else like they've done with dozens and dozens of businesses before.

                      Sure, I expect you to think this CEO is different, they don't do that anymore, is 7.5B they won't do it, etc.etc.etc but in 20+ years I've heard that and many many more excuses and still happened, sure you guys maybe right this one time but again my point is why take any risk if there are other platform almost or equally good, hence I moved on to those.
                      You just listed 3 worries that have nothing to do with privacy.

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