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  • #41
    Github has been a little sketchy due to the fact that the code of the site itself is closed sourced, unlike with Gitlab. So there is this closed source you shouldn't be allowed to look at this code because your a fool mentality going on there, so the Microsoft purchase is not too far off Github's condescending attitude towards users. With Gitlab you can actually run your own repository that has the same UI as the Gitlab hosted site, and you actually have the capability to improve it and are not beholden to Github.. I don't see why people think that Github is so great. Really its quite condescending to its users who are programmers in that its sources are top secret (unless you cough up some MASSIVE amount of money anyway).

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    • #42
      A few things I see in the near future.
      npm / composer / gem / et. al. updates/installs are all going to fail in new and interesting ways as the rush of paranoid developers leave.
      Microsoft will continue to operate Github as is for a while, then new features etc will be introduced. I don't think they will want to rock the boat too much - they are buying a fickle user base after all. Expect the first few sets of features to be earning goodwill.
      A bunch of other code hosting services will get a bunch of attention. I am hoping a lot more people will be looking at gitlab and adding improvements

      The sun will rise, the sun will set. Code will still be free, the people using the free accounts will continue being "The Product".

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      • #43
        Originally posted by caligula View Post

        Well, compared to their competitors, github is a pretty nice web service. If your project is public and open source, afaik it doesn't restrict you in any way. Maybe hard to migrate all the project metadata to another service, but is this really a problem? For instance sourceforge is terrible, google code was quite limited.
        Sourceforge is at least based on an open source platform, Allura, unlike Github which is closed source. Despite the reliability problems, I actually like Sourceforge, its not bad. Some people got pissed when Sourceforge allowed developers to consent to bundleware being added to binary downloads, its important to remember it was not done without the permission of the developer, and also the program has been ended.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by jpg44 View Post

          Sourceforge is at least based on an open source platform, Allura, unlike Github which is closed source. Despite the reliability problems, I actually like Sourceforge, its not bad. Some people got pissed when Sourceforge allowed developers to consent to bundleware being added to binary downloads, its important to remember it was not done without the permission of the developer, and also the program has been ended.
          "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". You only get one chance when it comes to goodwill, and SourceForge learned the hard way with that little stunt. I hope GitHub won't go down like that, but I'm not sticking around to find out. Cancelling my sub once my private repos have finished importing to GitLab.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by jpg44 View Post

            Sourceforge is at least based on an open source platform, Allura, unlike Github which is closed source. Despite the reliability problems, I actually like Sourceforge, its not bad. Some people got pissed when Sourceforge allowed developers to consent to bundleware being added to binary downloads, its important to remember it was not done without the permission of the developer, and also the program has been ended.
            Sorry to say, but Sourceforge UI/UX sucks a lot compared to GitHub.

            GitLab is better, but the UI/UX is overloaded. No surprise, a Windows 8 UI/UX designer was involved in GitLab (check it, it's relatively easy to do). They need to improve that a lot before adding more and more features.

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            • #46
              Migrate to GitLab

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              • #47
                I also don't think this is surely bad for GitHub. Microsoft's goal is probably not to fuck it up or to make it non-free. Their intent is most probably to improve GitHub's integration with their development tools, which they also profit from indirectly. If this is true the community will also profit from the acquisition. I mean, tbh MS already has the best dev tools (VS and vs-code), and if they get a tight integration with GitHub that would make both GitHub and the tools better for us. Assuming ofc they don't ruin it all, but as as I said, that's not what they want.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by ultimA View Post
                  I mean, tbh MS already has the best dev tools (VS and vs-code), [...]
                  Haha. Nice one. VS-Code is without question one of the most impressive editors of the past years (although I still prefer Sublime Text ...). For web (frontend) development, maybe even the best tool thanks to its plugins.
                  However Visual Studio comes only close to being "best" if your target is native Windows development. For a lot of "real world tasks", there are far better tools. Java is (unfortunately) the business standard. Try developing that with VS. Eclipse or IntelliJ are your tools there. Python? PyCharm (or maybe vscode). Even for C# you need Resharper to enhance VS to be really usable or just use Rider and get rid of that Windows dependency alltogether.
                  So from quality and breadth of language support and features I would say that Jetbrains develop the best dev tools

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                  • #49
                    Account deleted. Everything they touch they destroy.

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                    • #50
                      The main annoyance here is TravisCI is so tightly coupled with Github that they are now part of Microsoft ecosystem whether they want to or not. You can always host your repos elsewhere

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