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  • #51
    Good riddance. Such a person is a detriment to the project.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by KellyClowers View Post
      Good riddance. Such a person is a detriment to the project.
      ... I mean, obviously not? That's an objectively false statement.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by dkasak View Post
        Sounds like the community will be better off without him. Being a good dev, or making lots of commits, is not all that's involved in a community project. If someone is a jackass who is openly hostile to people based on their sex, religion, etc, then the jackass leaving is in everyone else's best interests.
        He explicitly argued against these things even being relevant to the project... Do you even English? O_o

        -e- Shit, I probably just broke the CoC by questioning your ability to speak/comprehend a certain language.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by KellyClowers View Post
          Good riddance. Such a person is a detriment to the project.
          Since you have a girl's name now there is an opening for you.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by GI_Jack View Post

            You are literally comparing a volunteer at a Free software project to people who performed intellectual labor at gunpoint. Rafeal was neither asked to leave, asked to resign, asked to curtail any activities, or change anything about himself or his actions.
            I am not equating them but in both cases people rightly felt unwilling to contribute to anything associated with totalitarian ideologies. Just different degrees of totalitarianism.

            You should take a moment to reflect that you must might be as unreasonable as the people you are mocking, and that the anti-SJW crowd is quickly becoming the new SJW crowd. Which is the reason people hate them in the first place is they take thing so far overboard that everything became "nazis". Now you've literally flipped the script and made everything "soviets".
            You can not be too vigilant about "soviets", as "nazis" had their Nuremberg tribunal and are widely condemned, while "soviets" did not and are proudly paraded everywhere, from academia to mainstream media. A lot of clueless individuals proudly display a swastika-equivalent hammer and sickle or pictures of mass murderers like Che Guevara.


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            • #56
              Originally posted by computerquip View Post

              ... I mean, obviously not? That's an objectively false statement.
              These people do not care about objective reality. See "Jordan Peterson: Why You Have To Fight Postmodernism":

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              • #57
                Originally posted by mastermind View Post
                I am not equating them but in both cases people rightly felt unwilling to contribute to anything associated with totalitarian ideologies. Just different degrees of totalitarianism.
                You still haven't given any example of totalitarian behavior at LLVM...

                Originally posted by PackRat View Post
                Since you have a girl's name now there is an opening for you.
                Is there a limited number of contributors allowed or something ?

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                • #58
                  The LLVM COC tolerates both racism and sexism as long as they are committed against a white male.

                  From the LLVM COC:

                  Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort. We will not act on complaints regarding:
                  • ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia’
                  • Reasonable communication of boundaries, such as “leave me alone,” “go away,” or “I’m not discussing this with you”
                  • Refusal to explain or debate social justice concepts
                  • Communicating in a ‘tone’ you don’t find congenial
                  • Criticizing racist, sexist, cissexist, or otherwise oppressive behavior or assumptions
                  Furthermore LLVM has partnered with Outreachy. A program that uses racist and sexist selection criteria to choose who gets to intern. White males need not apply.
                  Last edited by gururise; 03 May 2018, 01:40 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by eydee View Post
                    People working on stuff should be selected based on skill, not gender. Tech and politics don't go well together. Did they learn nothing from the FreeBSD fiasco?
                    meritocracy and victim complexes don't go well together

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by muncrief View Post
                      Well, it's difficult for White Nationalists to work with the same people they wish to oppress or eliminate.

                      Nevertheless it seems the LLVM group did everything it could to accommodate this lost soul, which is much to their credit. Evidently this contributor wanted to openly express his vile and threatening beliefs to others in a work environment though, which simply cannot be allowed. Outside of work people are of course free to be as horrible, and advocate as much horror, as they wish. But they can't run around threatening other people with dreams of resurrecting the horrors of the 1930s at their place of employment.
                      what were these vile and threatening beliefs?

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