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  • Even With Wayland Around, X.Org Had A Busy 2017

    Phoronix: Even With Wayland Around, X.Org Had A Busy 2017

    While 2017 was the first year in a decade without seeing a major X.Org Server release, it wasn't due to lack of X.Org Server development activity. Here's a look back at the X.Org 2017 highlights...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...017-Highlights

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    Is anyone consistently using Wayland? I've tried it several times and liked its smooth graphics, but it wouldn't work with my remote desktop app so I reverted to x.org. Also, I did not see any performance advantage to Wayland; probably the opposite.

    It's looking like a technology that won't truly be replacement-ready for several years, unfortunately.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by andyprough View Post
      Is anyone consistently using Wayland? I've tried it several times and liked its smooth graphics, but it wouldn't work with my remote desktop app so I reverted to x.org. Also, I did not see any performance advantage to Wayland; probably the opposite.

      It's looking like a technology that won't truly be replacement-ready for several years, unfortunately.
      It's expected though perhaps not this long. Wayland needed vendor support and vendors gave less of a shit than people anticipated.

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      • #4
        Driver support is the least of the concerns. We need to get remote desktop working.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by andyprough View Post
          Is anyone consistently using Wayland? I've tried it several times and liked its smooth graphics, but it wouldn't work with my remote desktop app so I reverted to x.org. Also, I did not see any performance advantage to Wayland; probably the opposite.

          It's looking like a technology that won't truly be replacement-ready for several years, unfortunately.
          Oh you're not drinking the Wayland koolaid? Then you must be living in a cave somewhere! At least that's what some of the Wayland elitist believe if you don't want to join their parade. Just recently TeamViewer said they couldn't find any standards for Remote Control for Wayland and that since Wayland does not support many features necessary for this kind of operation, they have to write a different implementation for EACH Wayland compositor out there! So don't be surprised if you get some remote desktop or media application in the future that says "Only works with Gnome", or "Only for KDE". Unless a common standard is adopted, this would continue to be a nightmare for developers.

          Wayland: 1 step forward, 10 steps backward.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by garegin View Post
            Driver support is the least of the concerns. We need to get remote desktop working.
            Unless I am mistaken, there is work on that using pipewire support in mutter and https://gitlab.gnome.org/jadahl/gnome-remote-desktop

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            • #7
              Originally posted by garegin View Post
              Driver support is the least of the concerns. We need to get remote desktop working.
              No, *you* need to get it working 'cause FreeRDP is part of Wayland already: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...remote_display

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                No, *you* need to get it working 'cause FreeRDP is part of Wayland already: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...remote_display
                Pretty funny. Your Arch link says there are a number of extensions which the user must get working with Wayland to get remote display working. But at the same time, it says there are no Wayland compositors that work with all the necessary extensions. So, I presume the user also gets to rewrite the compositor of their choice? Talk about a new level of user friendliness.

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