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  • phoronixforummember
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    Originally posted by j2723 View Post
    Really? Would you be kind enough to elaborate a bit more where exactly wayland is lacking?

    You seem to know your stuff, you might want to get in contact with the wayland developers over at #wayland on freenode to work these issues out.
    It lacks manpower, motivation and MONEY. What a poor bastard Wayland is!

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  • e8hffff
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    Originally posted by j2723 View Post
    Really? Would you be kind enough to elaborate a bit more where exactly wayland is lacking?
    Why else would Canonical need to remodel a display server.

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  • hooluupog
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    Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
    I think wait and see which way the wind blows is more like it. Probably wise on their part, though. X.org is not Linux, but a diverse set of interests that happens to include Linux. Only Linux is the one threatened by Mir. There are certain community agreed upon things that make an operating system Linux, not just the kernel. Ubuntu is ditching one of those key components and still calling themselves Linux. They are damaging the Linux brand. It's like calling toilet paper klenex because some people use it to blow their noses and it's very similar. At least Google has the decency to not call Android a Linux distrobution.
    If "certain community agreed upon things that make an operating system Linux",where is it? linux is a kernel and what you said are gnu linux distros(without so-called " agreed upon things"). Strictly speaking, android isn't a (gnu) linux distribution(without xorg which you named "certain community agreed upon things") in the first place,it is an open source mobile system based on linux(kernel) and nowadays is patching back its codes to main linux tree. As for mir, that's not damage but competition and innovation.

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  • garegin
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    Originally posted by johnc View Post
    Has Oracle indicated what they intend to do for Solaris going forward, now that X is kinda being retired and GNOME told them to pound sand?
    the non-linux unixes are moribund anyway. it's funny but both Solaris's and bsd's use of gnome 2 is always on my mind. i piratebayed solaris 11 couple of days ago, it's definitively more reliable and sane than RHEL. and let's face the facts, even if the GUIs are rubbish on Unixes like Solaris, it really doesn't matter. They are exclusively used on servers with basically zero desktop marketshare.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by e8hffff View Post
    Wayland is clearly lacking and their team should be taking a step back and thinking how can they improve their algorithms and routines to better suit supporting more scope as Mir plans.

    If Wayland is to be taken seriously, at the time Mir's release, Wayland should be able to do what Mir does, faster, and more. That's competition and innovation. People want that, so lets get away from these Sacred Cows.
    Get back to us when Mir is able to do a tenth of what Wayland can.

    LOL

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  • johnc
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    Has Oracle indicated what they intend to do for Solaris going forward, now that X is kinda being retired and GNOME told them to pound sand?

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  • j2723
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    Originally posted by e8hffff View Post
    Wayland is clearly lacking...
    Really? Would you be kind enough to elaborate a bit more where exactly wayland is lacking?

    You seem to know your stuff, you might want to get in contact with the wayland developers over at #wayland on freenode to work these issues out.

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  • e8hffff
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    Wayland is clearly lacking and their team should be taking a step back and thinking how can they improve their algorithms and routines to better suit supporting more scope as Mir plans.

    If Wayland is to be taken seriously, at the time Mir's release, Wayland should be able to do what Mir does, faster, and more. That's competition and innovation. People want that, so lets get away from these Sacred Cows.

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  • e8hffff
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    Intel's Eric Anholt wrote, "I don't imagine many people seeing mir as the next big thing."
    That's obvious he'd write something like that as in the short term Mir means ARM embellishment.
    Last edited by e8hffff; 18 March 2013, 06:45 PM.

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  • jayrulez
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    Originally posted by Prescience500 View Post
    I think wait and see which way the wind blows is more like it. Probably wise on their part, though. X.org is not Linux, but a diverse set of interests that happens to include Linux. Only Linux is the one threatened by Mir. There are certain community agreed upon things that make an operating system Linux, not just the kernel. Ubuntu is ditching one of those key components and still calling themselves Linux. They are damaging the Linux brand. It's like calling toilet paper klenex because some people use it to blow their noses and it's very similar. At least Google has the decency to not call Android a Linux distrobution.
    Could you please cite this "community agreed upon" specification or standard that makes an operating system Linux?

    I thought Canonical got a lot of flak for not mentioning Linux (enough) in its marketing. Your observation seems to be contradicting.

    Also, could you please elaborate on how Ubuntu is damaging the "Linux brand?".
    Last edited by jayrulez; 18 March 2013, 06:42 PM.

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