Luc Calls For A Dead Linux Desktop If Keith Gets His Way

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Luc Calls For A Dead Linux Desktop If Keith Gets His Way

While X Server 1.10 is not being discussed at length until tomorrow (the final day of XDS Toulouse), besides today's notes, Luc Verhaegen who formerly was with Novell working on the RadeonHD driver and has also worked on the open-source VIA Unichrome driver and a few other X related projects, is preparing for another heated battle...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODYxMw

[NomadDemon]

arguments please

[spies.andries]

As a programmer myself (and a linux user), de-modularization X would be the dumbest thing ever to do!

[squirrl]

Actually if the bindings are there you shouldn't see much of a performance difference in using Python for the Logic portion.

Reminds me of Visual Basic Direct3D samples back a few years. Everybody was sold that Visual Basic was too slow to do Direct3D when in fact it just made calls to the Libraries.

I'm surprised they're not using code-generation more these days. How many ways are there to initialize registers and activate latches?


InitVideo("Trident")

def InitVideo ( card ) :
ClockLimits()
IDentifiers()
Initialization()

[NomadDemon]

so stop giving stupid ideas, iam simple linux helper, with simple jobs. i know python isnt good language for this, python is good for GUI, or simple games. i just report bugs, and you force ME to fix them.. sorry i cant. already told you why

[kazetsukai]

heh.. make X in python, and i can help, iam not C/assembler programmer

LOL, that'll solve our performance issues alright.

[bridgman]

KMS really didn't solve anything that couldn't have been fixed in X. We don't need a boot splash. Vesa was handling that nicely.

KMS lets you build a GL ES / EGL stack without X. You can do a lot with that.

[squirrl]

I see that Luc is still calling for Linux to die.

People just keep changing things up. I had to change jobs because of this once. It was a no win situation. The lead developer would keep changing the codebase and we'd keep fixing and sorting out the bugs. The project manager kept bitching about the slipping dates. I told my fellow developers good luck and asked for a transfer.

I seriously believe the same applies here. Constant changing of the codebase is just going to push the features and fixes way out another two years. KMS really didn't solve anything that couldn't have been fixed in X. We don't need a boot splash. Vesa was handling that nicely.

Apple built Quartz in a few years time. Maybe one of the guys over there could step in and start a new initiative. Quartz is essential built on top of FREE/NET:BSD. So the frameworks may be easy to implement.


I found this interesting...
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...il/000053.html

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Philip K Dick once said not to start anything late at night.

[RealNC]

I see that Luc is still calling for Linux to die.

[gordboy]

@Gordboy,
I believe everybody deserves a second chance (except of relationships, but that's a different topic), so don't screw it up this.

Ofcourse; everybody can question things, but it's the way how one questions things. If you're figuratively out to suck the blood beneath people fingernails, so to speak, then be prepared for a dejavu.

Thanks Vincent. I'll treasure your advice forever.