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That's a moot point. You cannot count that, and any stats from Redhat which supports just Gnome will not prove anything.
Any online pools show that both KDE and Gnome have big usershare. Furthermore both Qt and GTK+ are part of LSB.
I'm sorry but with the current mind set, KDE people will need to hack on Xserver or write their own Xserver soon, because it may become to tied to Gnome. I'm exaggerating sure, but it shows the current situation. Yet again you see KDE users complaining in gnome topic, you do not see the other way around so that has to mean something, or do you really think that all the trolls live just on the K front ? It just means KDE users have some good reasons to complain that's all.
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Originally posted by Melcar View PostNothing wrong with GNOME. All they need to do is fix their damn panels and menu. As is, KDE is a far better desktop, though gtk apps. are for the most part superior to qt ones.
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Originally posted by val-gaav View PostYet again you see KDE users complaining in gnome topic, you do not see the other way around so that has to mean something, or do you really think that all the trolls live just on the K front ?
It just means KDE users have some good reasons to complain that's all.
In all seriousness, improvements in the Gnome stack do not endanger the KDE ecosystem (or vice versa). Not to mention that Fedora's raison d'?tre is to develop and test bleeding-edge code - if this patch proves beneficial it will be adopted upstream and implemented by all affected parties (including KDM). There's nothing nefarious, there's no big conspiracy to lock KDE out of anything ("all I hear these days is Gnome" types of comments). This plain, honest, open-source software development.
And I simply cannot understand all this animosity emanating from KDE users. Every single DE-related topic here is littered, flamed and finally derailed by angry KDE users trolling about Win98 wannabies, Microsoft sell-outs, Gnome conspiracies, Hitler, Nazis and the end of the world.
Come on guys, give it a rest. Your DE rocks, it's the bestest, seriously. Now can we all live together in peace, without flames on every single Gnome-related topic? (Pretty sure world peace is just round the corner once we can do that).
Edit: spelling.Last edited by BlackStar; 30 November 2009, 06:42 AM.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostActually, qt apps are superior to gtk apps. To name just few: Amarok, Kate, Ktorrent, Akregator, SMPlayer...
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Guys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread? (Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).
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Originally posted by BlackStar View Post
In all seriousness, improvements in the Gnome stack do not endanger the KDE ecosystem (or vice versa). Not to mention that Fedora's raison d'?tre is to develop and test bleeding-edge code - if this patch proves beneficial it will be adopted upstream and implemented by all affected parties (including KDM). There's nothing nefarious, there's no big conspiracy to lock KDE out of anything ("all I hear these days is Gnome" types of comments). This plain, honest, open-source software development.
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Originally posted by BlackStar View PostGuys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread?
(Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).Last edited by kraftman; 30 November 2009, 07:21 AM.
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Originally posted by BlackStar View PostGuys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread? (Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).
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Originally posted by madman2k View Postyou still have to understand how flamewars work. It is NOT about arguments or logic
Originally posted by kraftman View PostGnome people aren't better. Believe or not, but some people say there's such gnomocentrizm, because of some political reasons.
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