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    Phoronix: Linux 6.13 To Bring Big/Super Pages For The Raspberry Pi Graphics Driver - Better Performance

    While the Linux 6.12 merge window only ended this weekend and won't be out until November, already code is beginning to accumulate for DRM-Next of graphics driver improvements targeting the Linux 6.13 cycle that in turn will be the first major Linux kernel release of 2025. A nice improvement is on the way for the Raspberry Pi graphics driver...

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  • #2
    Great to see all this effort put into all of 1 device total.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pierce View Post
      Great to see all this effort put into all of 1 device total.
      It's two devices - the Pi 4 and 5.

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      • #4
        given that performances improvments are always welcome, I wonder who is interested in putting the effort into this.

        who is using Raspberry PI for gaming/graphics?

        AFAIK they are not very commonly used as desktop machine either (but I might be wrong here).

        any idea?

        I have 3 raspberry but I've rarely attached a display to them (if not during installation)

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        • #5
          I use the RPi4 as a portable dual monitor workstation with xfce4 when I go on vacation, works great. I'll likely upgrade to the RPi5 soon.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cynic View Post
            given that performances improvments are always welcome, I wonder who is interested in putting the effort into this.

            who is using Raspberry PI for gaming/graphics?
            Not really the answer you're looking for, since none of the rendering is done locally.

            I used a Pi 4 at a LAN recently. Stuck it to my screen and ran moonlight-qt to play latest AAA games with my squad. I ran it from TTY session for an improved experience. My wife did the same on her old macbook air and played with a xbox controller.

            I've used the Pi for things like Kodi + Plex + Retro gaming station. It worked well for those tasks but I wouldn't have complained if it was a bit faster / more reactive. I know some people also use the Pi for hobbyist AI image processing tasks and I'm sure that graphics performance helps there too.

            I feel the same way as pierce though. It would have been better to see more open source support for a wider number of SBCs.

            By looking at what Ebon Upton said over the past year, their blog posts, where their stock is going and a few other things it's clear that Raspberry Pi Trading is prioritizing enterprise solutions over their initial target "the open source hobbyist community". Feels bad for people like me who like open source. I'll still buy their products personally and continue to use them in commercial solutions but hoping something more open source friendly comes along. I'm still disappointed by IBM-Redhat and more recently IBM-Hashicorp. It would suck if they or similar company also go and buy Raspberry Pi Trading too. *touches wood*

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cynic View Post
              given that performances improvments are always welcome, I wonder who is interested in putting the effort into this.

              who is using Raspberry PI for gaming/graphics?

              AFAIK they are not very commonly used as desktop machine either (but I might be wrong here).

              any idea?

              I have 3 raspberry but I've rarely attached a display to them (if not during installation)
              I believe that there are many retro emulation users using Pis for gaming.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cynic View Post
                given that performances improvments are always welcome, I wonder who is interested in putting the effort into this.

                who is using Raspberry PI for gaming/graphics?

                AFAIK they are not very commonly used as desktop machine either (but I might be wrong here).

                any idea?

                I have 3 raspberry but I've rarely attached a display to them (if not during installation)
                I know few places where RPI 4 is being used as a kiosk pc with touch screen. It's perfectly good for such 24/7 devices. There's even a proximity sensor that shuts down the display when no one is nearby. The devices mostly run company web sites, but those can have quite complex content such as something similar to google earth and maps.

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                • #9
                  Excellent. Nice to see such a big bump in performance. Every performance gain is sorely needed on the Pi.

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                  • #10
                    Sorry for the necro, but I was about to buy my first Pi5 on black Friday special and saw it doesn't have hardware DECODING for h264 nor AV1. Is this really true? I'm shocked. Like really no h264 decoding?

                    Intel N100 mini-pc with 8GB upgradable RAM, 256GB NVMe drive, 2.5GB/s LAN, WIFI 6E costs the same as the Pi5 with lower spec addons (1GB/s Lan, WIFI 5). The N100 can do 8k AV1 decoding without going over 10W draw. It supports h264, h265, vp9, AVC, MPEG2, MJPEG, and AV1 while it's normal TDP is only 6 W. Also no SMT which is a plus for me in terms of security and AVX2 (256bit) which means you don't have to recompile packages for those distros that want to push to AVX2...

                    Why would someone buy a Pi5 if they can get a N100 mini-pc for the same price? 🤯

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