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To answer the other question, KMS is in karmic now but only for intel. Nouveau wont make it, 2.6.32 kernel at the earliest I hear, doesn't support all chips (might be wrong on that point), and nvidia binary drivers are incompatable with KMS. ATI depends on if it gets merged in 2.6.31 which it most likely will. That leaves *alot* of cards that wont have KMS support by the time karmic is released, don't forget about everything that isnt from those 3 companies
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rugby471: Plymouth depends on KMS, but KMS is needed for many other things, like working suspend/resume, BSOD (or any other color hehe) for kernel panics, fast VT switching, to run the Xserver without root privileges.
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Can anyone clarify this:
Ubuntu is not shipping Plymouth AT ALL
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Will 9.10 have KMS in it?
To be honest I don't really mind if there is no pretty splash, however the boot better be REALLY fast!
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I hardly get the rationale here. Even if boottime (grub > desktop) is reduced to mere 10 seconds, you can use Plymouth in those 10 seconds. This is not about whether it's worth to include it or not, it's what are you going to do with those 10 seconds, since you have to wait them anyway.
Now, 10 seconds are not enough to go get yourself a coffee. In fact, 10 seconds hardly justify doing anything else than sitting in front of the screen and _waiting_ for those 10 seconds to pass. So while we're at it, why not make a pleasurable, ever-changing experience? With alternating plugins, themes, or even the same theme with the same plugin being various enough to not be repetitive, it could be really nice.
Well, my pair of cents.
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The next LTS release will probably end up being 10.10 mopey mammoth to sync it up with debian's release around the same time anyhow, and also for a more stable gnome
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Originally posted by d2kx View PostSo the next "stable" "LTS" release will introduce KMS, Plymouth, GNOME 3.0 etc. ... I wonder how that turns out (especially GNOME 3.0)
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Originally posted by DanL View PostOh, and if they're shooting for absolute lowest boot time, why bother with usplash at all? I see a lot of complaints/bugs stemming from it. Text boot FTW!
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This seems like an excellent decision. I'd far rather a boot time ~10s than a fancy graphical boot.
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This is a good decision. Plymouth probably won't be ready for years.
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