Apple M1 Linux GPU DRM Driver Now Running GNOME, Various Apps

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[tuxayo]

and he is not a "she" ,.. its Hector Martin not a girl.

Why do even care? Let's just let people choose their name/nickname and pronouns.
If the actual issues are other things then it's not this one, no slippery slope fallacy needed.

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[dkasak]

thats not the only point about you what ends up beeing a fundamentally brain damange.

LOL - if you're going to specifically call out people's alleged intelligence issues ( based on you not liking their politics ), at least do so with proper grammar and spelling. Idiot.

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[Dukenukemx]

What?! Android is open source. If it wasn't we wouldn't have Calyxos or Grapheneos or Lineageos
https://source.android.com/docs/setu...ad/downloading

I mean you can choose to install Gapps if you want, but it's your choice.
There are open-source alternative to the play store like https://f-droid.org/

If you're ever installed a custom rom onto a Android device, you'll know it isn't exactly allowed. It can be to a degree but it usually involves unlocking the boot loader and as well as rooting. More extreme cases you need to S-OFF the device like on HTC. We have issues with Microsoft with secure boot but a quick trip to the bios and you can turn that off. Not so much the case with Android. Most Chromebooks don't even allow it unless you install a modded bios. Ask me how I know all this.

https://mrchromebox.tech/

Ummm...because developers (using open-source tools) have started to shift away from developing solely on Windows platforms and MS wants to win them back and keep them locked into Windows.

Doesn't sound like you disagree with me.

I've been reading these crazy theories for years http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764
It does seem plausible on the surface -- mostly as a way for MS to harness the power of the open-source community (aka free labor). But you have to realize that the majority of revenue in the Windows world has been business/government users, not home users...and those licensing deals aren't going to dry up anytime soon. Sure, they might decline, but hardly to the point that MS is somehow losing money on Windows development. Sorry, I'm not buying this.

Nobody said Microsoft is giving up licensing. Microsoft can adopt a lot of open source code, including Linux, and still charge a fee. There are Linux distros that do demand a fee, like Red hat. Microsoft using Linux would be cutting costs while claiming security equal to Linux, which is just marketing. Driver developers would instead put code into the Linux Kernel which saves Microsoft a lot of problems. A few compatibility layers here, and added features there, and nobody will even know that Windows now uses parts of the Linux kernel.

[stiiixy]

Just like to add my two cents on the congratulatory train after it was wrecked my another conversation

The work that has been done has certainly.impressed many; the speed if not the quality, or the temerity.

[akira128]

We already see companies like Google with Chrome and Android using the linux kernel to their advantage, without actually leaving behind an open platform.

What?! Android is open source. If it wasn't we wouldn't have Calyxos or Grapheneos or Lineageos

https://source.android.com/docs/setup/download/downloading

I mean you can choose to install Gapps if you want, but it's your choice.
There are open-source alternative to the play store like https://f-droid.org/

Why else would Microsoft be putting in so more code into Linux for the past number of years?

Ummm...because developers (using open-source tools) have started to shift away from developing solely on Windows platforms and MS wants to win them back and keep them locked into Windows.

I've been reading these crazy theories for years http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764
It does seem plausible on the surface -- mostly as a way for MS to harness the power of the open-source community (aka free labor). But you have to realize that the majority of revenue in the Windows world has been business/government users, not home users...and those licensing deals aren't going to dry up anytime soon. Sure, they might decline, but hardly to the point that MS is somehow losing money on Windows development. Sorry, I'm not buying this.

[rabcor]

I consider myself a socialist.

I'm not against it.

Like voice and all?

Welcome to the world of vtubers mate.

[Dukenukemx]

I do agree that different products from apple works quite well with each other.
Regarding WSL, not sure about microsoft being panic but able to run Linux on Windows easily and perhaps more efficiently is great.

Remember the last step with Microsoft is extinguish. We already see companies like Google with Chrome and Android using the linux kernel to their advantage, without actually leaving behind an open platform. I can install GNU/Linux on a Chromebook so long a I install a modded bios.

Not sure what is the next step for them, I don't think they would abandon their own working NT kernel for Linux, considering that they value backward compatibilities over anything else.

Why not? The Linux Kernel takes care of everything for Microsoft while also able to claim the security benefits from it, much like Apple does with Mac OSX with BSD. This would reduce development costs substantially. I doubt Microsoft would use the same kernel as we do with our Linux distros, so expect a lot of modifications. It's not far fetched that Microsoft can retain most of Windows compatibility with a lot of work on their end. Why else would Microsoft be putting in so more code into Linux for the past number of years?