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ASpeed AST2600 BMC Support For DisplayPort Landing In Linux 5.19

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by coder View Post
    What I can say from experience with the ASPEED 2300 is that I never experienced 2D performance so bad, since the days of software rendering using VESA compatibility mode. And that's having used other server integrated graphics.

    If the AST 2600 indeed has integrated 2D acceleration, it might not be so bad. This would be a necessity for using it at 4k, or even 2.5k.
    For high resolutions, I believe it should be

    I never worked with the AST 2600,
    I just read about it having a 2d graphics, but I don't know how good it is.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    AST2600 its a dual core cortex a7,
    With a micro-controller cortex-m3, and has the capability to support 2GB RAM. It also has a 2d graphics card on chip.
    For its purposes, its more than adequate, it has plenty of power.
    What I can say from experience with the ASPEED 2300 is that I never experienced 2D performance so bad, since the days of software rendering using VESA compatibility mode. And that's having used other server integrated graphics.

    If the AST 2600 indeed has integrated 2D acceleration, it might not be so bad. This would be a necessity for using it at 4k, or even 2.5k.

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  • flower
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    Honestly i would prefer thunderbolt. Up to 25 meters including display, pcie and so on.

    But well... I want that primarily for my home server

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  • tuxd3v
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    I don't think displayport, in a server, is something that we will use.
    But for me.. its ok that they add it.

    AST2600 its a dual core cortex a7,
    With a micro-controller cortex-m3, and has the capability to support 2GB RAM. It also has a 2d graphics card on chip.
    For its purposes, its more than adequate, it has plenty of power.

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  • NotMine999
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    IMHO...VGA on servers has always been a "so what" feature that was only useful when I had no access to the server via SSH or an IPMI console session. Rack mounted, slide-out keyboard-VGA units were always handy, but so was the crash cart with a monitor, keyboard, mouse & tools if needed.

    As for all the screamers out there, you know the type..."Gotta have mega-sized CPU that consumes multiple kW of power while generating mega BTU of heat along with gobs of RAM and bazillion bytes of storage all crammed into a 1U form factor".

    Those sorts of demands drive the purchases of hardware that are slightly quieter than a super max jumbo jet at full throttle takeoff power making hearing protection a mandatory item to enter the server room.

    Yeah, we all want to look like Dumbo the Elephant when we need to go back there to physically toggle a switch. What's next? PPE clothing, eye goggles, & hard-toe shoes?

    At a certain point a reasonable person just shakes their head and mutters "WTF?!"

    Simply stated, VGA is simple. It works. Chipsets are dirt cheap and sometimes embedded in other chips. Just about every OS created can dump output to VGA without special drivers. And who needs a GUI interface on a server? A Windows or Apple Admin. Real Admins know how to use SSH and CLI...even us "white beards".

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by mazumoto View Post
    I'd really like to get BMC functionality and a tiny Radeon GPU - preferably in the same chip - that is enough for simple desktop usage and doesn't require much power. But I don't think there is such a thing.
    The X570-D4U boards support Ryzen APUs. Of course, I'm not sure to what extent that limits BMC functionality, but it means you actually have usable graphics capability on such machines.

    Now, if only AMD would sell Ryzen Pro APUs on the open market, because they prevent you from using ECC memory on the non-Pro version.

    Interestingly, Intel just unlocked ECC support on all Alder Lake CPUs, however you still have to use it with a server/workstation motherboard chipset.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by Rob72 View Post
    Most new monitors no longer even offer VGA.
    Gaming monitors don't, but more "productivity"-oriented monitors often still have a DVI-I port.

    Failing that, you can use a VGA -> HDMI converter. I see one on Amazon for $12.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    So does the ASpeed AST2600 contain a GPU?
    Is it licensed IP or an in-house developed GPU?
    Is it compatible with OpenGL? Like even OpenGL 1.1?
    ASPEED "GPUs" are a pile of feces. I promise that you've never used such garbage as these.

    AST2600 is ASPEED's 7th generation Server Management Processor, and also the world's first BMC SoC adopting 28nm advanced process technology.


    That's right - they use the same ARM core as 1st gen Raspberry Pi. Except, now there's 2 of them! And they use the 28 nm manufacturing process that was cutting-edge about 10 years ago.

    As such, it wouldn't make sense to do any 3D acceleration on them, since running llvmpipe or lavapipe on your host CPU would perform vastly better.

    The only good thing I can say about them is that you can use them to remotely upgrade a machine's BIOS, when the host processor can't even boot (e.g. because you're using a newer CPU than the motherboard originally supported).

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  • mifritscher
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    The DCC(the bit to id the montior what is is) on vga runs 5 volts like everything else at 300mA to 1A
    Eh, no. At first, also HDMI and DVI have dedicated DDC pins as well - with exactly the same functionality and protocol. Secondly, DCC is no bit, but a I2C bus, which uses a few mA. In fact, the pull ups often are in range 1-10 kOhms, which means about 0,5...5 mA.

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  • kylew77
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    I wish the DC I worked at had those 1U terminals in the cold aisles. We use crash carts to connect to power and VGA in the hot asiles. Seeing how expensive they are I understand why we don't have one for each rack! Wish we did though, or IMPI for all servers but nope we don't even have that.

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