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    ssokolow
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  • ssokolow
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    nobody needs it for performance, every game has "fullscreen window" display variant which is just as fast but doesn't break popups etc.
    I fail to see how it can be just as fast if it inherently has to go through an extra stage in the compositing pipeline. You can't magically get more cycles from nowhere so, if that's true, it just means that they didn't implement the direct/unredirected rendering mode properly in the first place.

    Now, whether it's noticeable is a different story. I don't use Steam, but I can assume the Steam overlay is proof that it can be done efficiently or else why would anyone tolerate it for anything more demanding than a GPU-scaled 2D game?

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by partcyborg View Post
    Hans Reiser (the creator of reiserfs)
    hey, he wasn't linux graphics dev

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by ssokolow View Post
    the "bypass compositor" feature that lets a game get OpenGL/Vulkan direct-to-monitor for performance
    nobody needs it for performance, every game has "fullscreen window" display variant which is just as fast but doesn't break popups etc.

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by geamandura View Post
    Reading comprehension?
    lol.
    Originally posted by geamandura View Post
    It is written, but it is a description of the previous, SYNC behaviour that this ASYNC implementation was made to fix.
    so what is that tradeof it is talking about? tradeof between slow+tearing vs fast+nontearing? in reality description of previous behavior mentions lack of tearing

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by doomie View Post
    last I tried I still couldn't seemingly get any unredirect to actually work on any wayland compositors; Sway or Plasma
    next time try mainstream compositor

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by microcode View Post
    I don't think it introduces tearing.
    did you read the article past title?

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by Monsterovich View Post
    Wayland fanboys: Noo! You can't add new features. Xorg is dead!
    xorg lunatics live in alternative reality. of course you can add features. how many features did you add? i know you added zero because people who do add features know that all development had shifted to wayland long ago
    Originally posted by Monsterovich View Post
    Xorg: Ha-ha. tearing go brrrr.
    ftfy
    pal666
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    Last edited by pal666; 10 September 2021, 06:49 PM.

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  • bple2137
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  • bple2137
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    Originally posted by stalkerg View Post
    Wayland is still not ready if you need to type Japanese or use any other IM (it's working but too buggy and new extensions are still in the design phase)
    Also, the Vilhelm game is very slow under XWayland.
    I'm surprised every time someone say XWayland experience is worse than X11 session. Looks like there's something hardware specific to it. On AMD graphics I have matching performance and sometimes even better on Wayland for some reason + flexibility regarding screen resolution/scaling as a bonus.

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  • sinepgib
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  • sinepgib
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    Originally posted by blacknova View Post

    Simple really, it is used if you want to share you screen to larger display i.e. for presentation.
    Originally posted by whitecat View Post
    My desktop is in my livingroom, with a 144 Hz screen to play games, and my TV screen (60Hz) also to watch movie, music, etc.
    Not a common use case I admit.
    OK, both of those make sense to me. I just don't make presentations, so I didn't think of it. I do watch movies on my TV screen, but always use a laptop in the same room so I just extend the display.
    I wasn't directing the question at the freq difference, that just happens IMO. I mean, it would happen to me with my laptop if I had an external display at 144Hz, even while extending the desktop, or because you saved up for that second 144Hz but first went with a cheaper 60Hz to have something working quickly, or your case with the TV.
    I wondered about the clone itself, not the mismatch.

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  • whitecat
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  • whitecat
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    Originally posted by sinepgib View Post
    Stupid and off-topic question, but I always wondered what's the use case for clone mode. It specifically annoys me not understanding it because it's the default pretty much everywhere (not just X or Wayland, but Mac and Windows) and I see no use for it.
    My desktop is in my livingroom, with a 144 Hz screen to play games, and my TV screen (60Hz) also to watch movie, music, etc.
    Not a common use case I admit.

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