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Originally posted by cynic View Post
tsk! that's nothing, nowadays everybody accepted the end of X11.
the real interesting comments comes when the article is about systemd or btrfs
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Originally posted by reavertm View PostI will ask stupid question maybe.
Is Wayland (releasing bunch of protocols) really the best in class design to realise display server / drivers framework in Open Source environment?
Windows has been benefitting from WDF or WDM over the years and in general from being proprietary and fully under control of single entity, having de-facto or fully production ready reference implementation.
As was X11 somewhat. Wouldn't it be better to just have better X11, breaking backward compatibility when necessary to address its shortcomings?
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I will ask stupid question maybe.
Is Wayland (releasing bunch of protocols) really the best in class design to realise display server / drivers framework in Open Source environment?
Windows has been benefitting from WDF or WDM over the years and in general from being proprietary and fully under control of single entity, having de-facto or fully production ready reference implementation.
As was X11 somewhat. Wouldn't it be better to just have better X11, breaking backward compatibility when necessary to address its shortcomings?Last edited by reavertm; 14 April 2021, 06:49 AM.
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Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
No, I know someone who does not. In his eyes, Xorg is way better because reasons. And Arcan is way better too. And then he send me a issue on the wayland repo where someone has the following scenario:
* He starts client via the terminal
* He suspends the client (technically freezing the process)
* The compositor at some point has a timeout and closes the connection to the client
Then he told me "Imagine if you have a bitcoin wallet and it fetches gigabytes of data from the harddisk and your compositor kills it" and I did die internally from reading that.
People, if your program stalls main() for a large amount of time to fetch data from the harddrive, you do something massively wrong and should not be anywhere near to a computer.
Program can be swapped out from RAM to disk, and until it is read back in, it can not continue. It may run slower, but it will work.
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Originally posted by cynic View Post
tsk! that's nothing, nowadays everybody accepted the end of X11.
* He starts client via the terminal
* He suspends the client (technically freezing the process)
* The compositor at some point has a timeout and closes the connection to the client
Then he told me "Imagine if you have a bitcoin wallet and it fetches gigabytes of data from the harddisk and your compositor kills it" and I did die internally from reading that.
People, if your program stalls main() for a large amount of time to fetch data from the harddrive, you do something massively wrong and should not be anywhere near to a computer.
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Originally posted by spstarr View PostDead.. when both KDE/GNOME compositors *both* can't turn on my DisplayPort on this laptop... Wayland is not ready, still. I can't switch to it at all.
Code:[ 126.282206] amdgpu 0000:01:00.0: amdgpu: SRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x00100040 [ 126.449983] [drm] Got external EDID base block and 2 extensions from "edid/Samsung-LC27G7xT.edid.bin" for connector "DP-2"
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Originally posted by CochainComplex View PostI love the x11 or wayland articles....popcorn and reading the comment section
the real interesting comments comes when the article is about systemd or btrfs
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Originally posted by MadeUpName View Post
Thanks for the response. I did some digging and you are correct. Unfortunately SDDM has a hard requirement for the xorg-x11-server. I hope that is some thing they intend to correct before the final release of 34. It would be odd to have a release whose main feature is to remove X but then force you to take it anyway over the greeter which is going to send you to Wayland. I'm sticking with the idea that the best way to update X is to remove it.
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Originally posted by spstarr View PostDead.. when both KDE/GNOME compositors *both* can't turn on my DisplayPort on this laptop... Wayland is not ready, still. I can't switch to it at all.
Code:[ 126.282206] amdgpu 0000:01:00.0: amdgpu: SRBM_SOFT_RESET=0x00100040 [ 126.449983] [drm] Got external EDID base block and 2 extensions from "edid/Samsung-LC27G7xT.edid.bin" for connector "DP-2"
If nobody is going to release 1.21, maybe it's time someone took the reins of this, if its documented how the releases are made. I would if I had time...
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