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  • #71
    Originally posted by 144Hz
    timofonic You probably mean everyone outside GNOME might be doomed. GNOME got enough developers and critical mass.
    And that's the real reason we're all doomed. GNOME is a trap in it's current form, until competition becomes a lot stronger and forces everyone to move forward.

    Small projects are cool and innovative, but they're weak.

    KDE is a cool experiment, but needs stronger support and better stabilization.

    The rest are nice, but maybe too specialized for mainstream.

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    • #72
      Awesomeness i see. so the revenue is the factor that u measure the succes of a distro.
      u forgot about android. after all its also linux at its core. and that being the case then your "most successful" distro is not that successful.
      as for popularity statistics somehow RH/fedora is not in top 3.



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      • #73
        Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
        And you can't get enough of it. Otherwise you wouldn't be here.
        I actually hope to hear something different. And on rare occasion sometimes I do. But not often.

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        • #74
          Well, Multiseat and multihead are ready, for announcing it?
          I did not said about xinerama....

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Raka555 View Post
            (…) wayland, which has gone nowhere in 11 years.
            OMG, what a stupid and ignorant statement. Wayland compositors are quite usable, and at some features they are already doing better than X.org. And Wayland in general evolved and improved A LOT over the last 11 years. If you don't use it and know nothing about it, then you probably should stay silent.

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            • #76
              X.org is not abandoned, its simply mature, stable software. New releases are not critical simply because their is no huge feature that needs to be added. In fact, new releases can often introduce new problems. X.org is big for backwards compatibility and making sure old apps run well, so new releases are not all that essential.

              Many cards won't work on Wayland. You seem to need a recent $2000 computer with the latest graphics adapter that cant be over 2 years old. This is a gross misunderstanding of who Linux users are, who often use Linux to breath life into older computers which still function perfectly.

              The Wayland architecture commits every bad design decision that X.org avoided. Apps should not touch video drivers. Window management should be separate from the display server.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by dreamer_ View Post

                OMG, what a stupid and ignorant statement. Wayland compositors are quite usable, and at some features they are already doing better than X.org. And Wayland in general evolved and improved A LOT over the last 11 years. If you don't use it and know nothing about it, then you probably should stay silent.
                I know enough about it that I know it does not work on my hardware.
                And where it works, it is pretty buggy. 11 years later ...

                If wayland was the be-all-and-end-all, everyone would have been happily running it by now
                Last edited by Raka555; 25 October 2020, 11:47 AM.

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                • #78
                  I'm going to build a new PC onces Ryzen 5000 launches. I've used intel/nvidia for years on Linux with excellent results. But I'm fed up of not getting wayland. Maybe this is finally the year I'll switch to AMD/AMD

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Neraxa View Post
                    Many cards won't work on Wayland. You seem to need a recent $2000 computer with the latest graphics adapter that cant be over 2 years old.
                    It's always worked on my Ideapad laptop since 2014, when I paid it €800.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by klapaucius View Post

                      It's always worked on my Ideapad laptop since 2014, when I paid it €800.
                      While I was able to launch wayland desktop for a while already it became usable for me only this year. And it still have some annoying issues, less than before but issues are still present. Of course that might be GNOME mutter issues as wayland implementation.

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